I want to question the way England and Australia handle Juvenile justice.
In cases of a juvenile victim I agree not releasing the offenders details is needed to protect the victim.
Both country's, to protect the child/juvenile? do not release their names and do not convict often.
Some rack up multiple cases and serve no sentence.
A quote, near as I can remember, from iceT song follows.quote hands off me cannt touch me cannt do nothing I am a juvenile end quote.
Not, not a rap fan.
But tell me who is protected by say the youth in another thread here with 50 to 100 crimes, no convictions and we do not know his name?
What are the advantages of this.
Are we breeding the next generation ,one after another, of emerging teen age thugs by kissing kids when we should be taking them off the streets.
Is it wrong of me? to question what about the rights of the six dead?

Banjo I have rethought this over night.
My intent was as I said.
You will not like this, many will not.
But you surely? can not say I am fixed on politics as much as many here.
It has been my view, for 50 years, we promote our side of politics, all of us.
We not me, blindly allow our side freedom to act wrongly.
My belief, honestly firmly held, that an attempt to lionize these criminals, blame Society/conservatives, for their actions was taking place.
Banjo, mate, my reference supports my view, Abbott and his team, in just using the term lie in reference to Gillard.
While lying every day, while saying yes protect farming land from gas miners then no we will not, mirrored in a hundred maybe five hundred other such actions is just plain wrong.
I think you should look at posts from Individual haunting unrelated threads with bitter insults.
Rechtub with uncontrolled blind rage.
I used politics as a measurement in a thread that ultimately come back to politics.
No easy task being a Labor voter in a forum inhabited with many who only want one side debated.

csteele,

Thank you.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/divided-we-fall-20110820-1j3ir.html
First glance? different than the London riots.
Or is it.
Old built in need, we seem to have to be us, and call others them,
To be different.
In fact to revel in that difference,as a way of? strangely uniting us, against them.
Class against class color against color workers against non workers or is it the other way around?
Education, I come back to it constantly, and in truth would not Begin to know what is taught at school today.
But are we teaching life skills,that in the end we have to respect others.
Or as I fear, is even our education telling us who to dislike.