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Could UK style riots happen in Australia?
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Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 8:38:51 PM
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Some are saying that the police had the capacity to quash these riots in the early stages but let them happen to bring in oppressive regulation/laws on all the population,to stop protests even by peaceful people who have ligitimate gripes.It is the intelligent middle/working class that the political elites fear most.The yobbos are easly dispelled,but those who can think can change the system to one of fairness are the greatest danger.
They equate their new police enforcer to Robocop who in the movie was an exterminator.Notice the psychology working here.The rioters are sub-human and need to be treated accordingly.What about the Wall St theives who stole $ trillions in peoples'savings and super.They have not been brought to justice and will likely escape justice. Study carefully the new laws they bring in that limit the rights of peaceful protestors to confront the establishment.We will most likely copy what Britian does. Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 8:56:40 PM
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Dear Arjay,
You said; "What about the Wall St theives who stole $ trillions in peoples'savings and super.They have not been brought to justice and will likely escape justice." I hear you. Bad boy Russell Brand put it very well in an article for the Guardian. "Why am I surprised that these young people behave destructively, "mindlessly", motivated only by self-interest? How should we describe the actions of the city bankers who brought our economy to its knees in 2010? Altruistic? Mindful? Kind? But then again, they do wear suits, so they deserve to be bailed out, perhaps that's why not one of them has been imprisoned. And they got away with a lot more than a few fawking pairs of trainers." http://m.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/11/london-riots-davidcameron?cat=uk&type=article And while there are some that argue this isn't about class David Cameron doesn't seem to think so. "In a major speech addressing the causes of so-called “broken Britain”, the Prime Minister said yesterday that the Government’s attention would turn to addressing the problems caused by about 120,000 dysfunctional families." "However, within hours of Mr Cameron’s announcement, the Treasury confirmed it was pushing ahead with plans to strip more than a million families of child benefit from 2013." Do we really think Sarah Ferguson will be included? Hardly. These are very much poor families. Dear Is Mise, I take the point but am still comfortable about calling them Anzacs. Posted by csteele, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 10:11:13 PM
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Please believe there is no sweat on my brow.
I am not angry with anyone. I think, and have always thought the word Anzac should be respected. Could post tens of reports of Australian and for that matter New Zealand troops running amok. I could remind posters of the true nature of ww1, the reasons for it the resulting miss management by upper class idiots who murdered their troops. But it has nothing to do with these riots. It has nothing even remotely, to do with Ajay's concerns about crimes committed in world fiancés. And it has nothing to do with being poor. If we, in the name of pushing our own Social/Economic belief/ brand make such claims, we act just as lets say unfocused/ misleading with deliberate forethought as Abbott and his supporters. No human poor rich or not,does not understand, this was/is a crime against the community. Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 5:34:39 AM
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"Dear Is Mise,
I take the point but am still comfortable about calling them Anzacs. Posted by csteele, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 10:11:13 PM" OK, fair enough; what do you think about the ANZACS in the Boer War or the even earlier ones in the Sudan? Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 9:07:33 AM
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Belly,
I know you and SM only live for politics of your particular persuasion, but in your last post you said "If we, in the name of pushing our own Social/Economic belief/ brand make such claims, we act just as lets say unfocused/ misleading with deliberate forethought as Abbott and his supporters". Why do you bring party politics into this discussion? I looked back a page or so and i did not see any reference to your statement by anyone else, so it seems to me that you are just using this to denigrate the opposition. Mate, like the Anzacs, it is not related, except in the sense that all our politicians have shown by example that our social responsibilities and ethics have dropped dramaticly. The issue is far more social than politicial, though politicians should set example by not lieing and stabbing others in the back Posted by Banjo, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 9:41:19 AM
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In no sense of the term were they Anzacs.