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Indonesian abattoir workers 'bribed' for TV beef expose

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I've just been going through the old Newspapers. I cut & save All the articles about women killing their Husbands & Children. The papers went back to the start of the killing cattle debarcle.
As the story unfolded there was a cry from the public, abeit the Veggies, To ban the sale of cattle to Indoneasia for their cruilty. As shown in THEIR video that they had made of the cruel way Indoneasians kill OUR poor Moo Cows.
The Government hesatated, saying that they would investigate the Video.
The public (Veggies) were outraged that nothing was being done to stop the export & demanded that it cease immediately.
The Government still was investigating.
More outcry from the Public (Vegies), joined by the LNP, demanding thate the export of cattle be stopped. .
The Government under pressure from the Public (Veggies) caved in. To the deleight of the Public ( Veggies) & the LNP.
They banned the Export of live cattle.
Then the Cattlemen step into the fray & the LNP swiches sides & backs the Cattlemen. Lots of Hoo Har from both sides. Veggies (public) claiming victory.
Government demands Indonesia follow the rules on Killing befor export is resumed.
Indonesia agrees. Talks on export & Methods of killing.
Exports start to resume. Out cry from Veggies (public).
Video is found to be fake. Veggies cry foul, saying the Video is real.
More investigation is done & the Indoneasian in the Video confesses to being paid. Wife, family, villiage is ostrasizing him.
Veggies disclaim the Video saying it was from a 3rd. party, nothing to do with them.
All is now quite on the Export front. (almost).

Whose fault is it?
ALP's? They waited until forced by the Public (Veggies) & the LNP.
ALP acted according to the Public (Veggie & LNP) out cry.
Cattle men hurting, LNP demand the export resume?
ALP resumes export according to the wishes of the LNP, Cattlemen & public. (No Veggies)
Video exposed, Veggies disown Video.

No one's fault, or everyone's fault. Overreaction by everyone.So I wouldn't be pushing blame onto anyone.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 15 August 2011 2:46:23 PM
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Lexi,

It would appear that all your quotes come from New Matilda. This light weight lefty rag consists almost entirely of flimsily researched opinion pieces with not even a veneer of impartiality.

Either you don't read anything else, or you cannot find any thing else to support your whimsical conclusions.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 15 August 2011 5:16:11 PM
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SM,

Come on. That's your answer for any quoted source
that doesn't agree with your point of view.
Get serious and actually read the articles. They
may surprise you. BTW: the media are only as
objective as the conservative businesses that
own them.
Posted by Lexi, Monday, 15 August 2011 8:43:42 PM
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Lexi, Shadow Minister, Belly & all else that believe that their party is the right one. I look at it like religion. Each one believes that their particular creed is the only way to reach Nivana. The reality is that they are all as corrupt as one another. It is especially true of the two Parties we are stuck with, whether or not it's Australia, Europe, the UK or America. The two main Partys are corrupt. They share the power between them. It doesn't matter who is in the Top Job. All that matters is that it is one of them.
The need for a 3rd. Political Power to challange them is evident. Getting that 3rd. Power is the hard part. The Democrats tried, as did One Nation, Now the Kat in the Hat is making a try. The 2 main Partys are terrified of the competition because it upsets their cosy arrangement. They enjoy a minor party that represents no challenge. One that they can easily control. But a serious threat... They will do everything in their power cooperatively to eliminate it. Including infiltrating that Party & destructing it from the inside. As in the case with One Nation. They used the loony Greens to destroy the Democrats. I believe the Kat in the Hat may be a different proposition. With hope & a lot of luck, maybe he can pull it off. It is obvious that some thing has to happen otherwise Australia is down the gurgler with the rest of the World.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 15 August 2011 10:16:10 PM
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Lexi,

No I don't say that about all quoted sources, but I have read the NM, and have yet to see any news. All the articles are essentially poorly researched opinion pieces selectively cobbling together information that is available in most newspapers to push a left wing / green political agenda.

I have yet to see a single article that criticises the carbon tax, only an insipid commentary on how Julia hasn't sold it well enough.

To be taken seriously, you need more than one source of information.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 7:30:33 AM
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I offer as evidence some posts full of expressive anger and far too much self confidence as evidence .
Evidence not all of us truly understand politics.
We in this country became a nation from about 1974, we had Anzac and battlefield bravery but until then we kept our place as a tiny bit of England in the Pacific.
Our Sir Robert Menzies, without doubt a word smith and well,yes statesman, loved the British ,himself, and us, he wanted to call our dollar the Royal.
Conservatives and even more so Labour took us in to the the open market.
We had always brawled with our self but got infected, with the American illness.
We saw our leaders on TV judged them on looks, and far worse, adopted Americas election system, personal abuse lies, even inventions to defame each other.
Every attempt at third party has failed and will continue to.
National Party was born to be a third party,once was.
It has been nothing but the servant of Liberalism from the day Blackjack John Mac Cewan left.
Democrats began to die when its founder left apart from one young woman drowned slowly.
Greens, startle me!2 years ago I would never have seen this,the triumphalism in 9 senate seats.
But the harsh truth?over 80% in my view 86%, of this country's center the aways vote Labor/Liberal will never change.
But both party's do and must .
Conservatives will not take Abbott to an election, Labor seems to want Gillard in the death seat but it will rise on the back of yet another generation of voters understanding they have been sold a pup, a lie.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 7:34:39 AM
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