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Indonesian abattoir workers 'bribed' for TV beef expose

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I think it extremely unwise to play russian roulette with a country simply to guess your way through blunder after blunder.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 13 August 2011 8:20:03 PM
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Lexi,

This government has already had more than one term, and has shown itself in policy after policy to be incompetent, and far more interested in power than the interests of the people.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 14 August 2011 1:31:03 AM
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Dear SM and Individual,

John Howard had what 12 years?
His nickname was the "unflushable turd."
Which I suppose is worse than the names
being given to our current Prime Minister.
As for Howard's budget surplus? All too easy
in a cyclical boom - and he didn't have a
global financial crisis to deal with. Also
lets not forget the cut-backs. When you reach
a budget surplus you do so on cut-backs.
Anyway, some people have short-term memories
and only remember what they want to remember.

I'm not trying to convert any of you - you vote
for whoever you want. I shall do the same.

See you on another thread.

Cheers.
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 14 August 2011 12:15:09 PM
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These allegations of bribery are not proven. While nothing is impossible, I find it difficult to believe that an animal welfare group would do such a thing. They certainly have a barrow to push and while it is possible that someone might fake a photo for the so-called 'greater good', it is equally as likely that other groups might also put forth these allegations for their own interests.

Who is this 'reliable' source? Conspiracies are one thing but in the issue of live exports there are many possible conspirators with specific interests to protect. What better way than to cast doubt on those earlier allegations.

I have met many so-called 'reliable' sources spruiking their stuff on camera knowing that the information was nothing more than spin and at worst untrue.

Why not wait for the outcome of any investigation.

The question is still the same. Should Australia be exporting live cattle and if not why not?
Posted by pelican, Sunday, 14 August 2011 2:18:09 PM
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Wouldn't AU be better off value adding instead of selling whole. This business of temporally stunning will never happen. Body weight will have a lot to do with it. The bolt gun is the only way at the moment. You wouldn't get any one to go near a temporally stunned animal that size.
There is no recovery from the bolt gun, the animal is brain dead.
Posted by a597, Sunday, 14 August 2011 4:56:19 PM
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only remember what they want to remember.
Lexi,
that's precisely what you're doing.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 14 August 2011 8:16:08 PM
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