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Indonesian abattoir workers 'bribed' for TV beef expose

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SM,

If you haven't read one single article that
criticizes the carbon tax - perhaps that should
tell you something more than just the fact that
the sources are "light-weight," as you put it.
Sometimes you need to look at the bigger picture,
(even though you may only have a small screen) - you
can at least try. And using more than one source -
is what I told you - quite some time ago. Glad that
you remembered it.
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 11:39:31 AM
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Lexi,

Now you are being deliberately perverse, that is not what I said at all.

Given that I have quoted many different publications, and you only one, I can only assume your bluster is to cover up your inadequate depth.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 1:35:12 PM
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SM,

Again you're simply being divisive.
I have quoted many sources in the past.
I choose the ones that I feel are on the
topic - and fair. You seem to select ones
that match your political views. And you're
brushing aside "New Matilda," only because
you somehow feel that they represent views
that are anti - what you believe. They actually
present balanced views if you bothered to read
them. And simply because I don't agree with you
on many issues does not make my views "shallow."
As to how much "depth" I may or may not have -
you can't really judge because I'm a multi-faceted
individual - and someone you don't happen to know.
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 3:01:05 PM
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I my morning swim, in the Australian printed Media, I found this morning very cold.
In the NT and WA north QLD farmers who saw that first load away to Indonesia are suffering.
Wounder how many understand some of them live in tin shanty's.
And just how many are thinking about taking a gun riding out and killing them selves
No way out for many of them, red necks? maybe, Labor voters? unlikely but maybe.
I look at Tony Abbott, and am in fear!
Tony for a Christian, has no regard for truth!
Look think what you will, but I no one sided my party right or wrong blind mouse as so many here are.
My party had no idea on this issue of its blind actions and the impacts, no ability to understand these cattle face it, have to currently be exported.
I understand, I am only one who has an opinion, but at least mine did not come from a life in one of our city's leafy upper class streets.
In a country that often finds a bush hat and our famous greasy rain coat in such a house, dreams of country life and the Australian bush, we have taken some out the back and kicked the hell out of them,in one case already pulled that tragic trigger.
Every action,every one, has an impact.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 5:54:13 AM
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Belly,

And Juliar is such pillar of truthfulness?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 12:09:23 PM
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If I was to climb a mountain and needed help I would pick you first shadow Minister.
You never give up, never turn your head from your task.
And I have to admire you for it,but lets have a Capitan Cook, [look at] your post.
We both know Julia is no leader,and not much good in truth.
At some level you too know,she meant it, when she said that statement you love to throw about.
In fact I have NEVER doubted your intelligence, you know, as I do, she stopped Rudd implementing his Carbon tax.
She wanted nothing to do with it,both during Rudd's go and at the time she said it you and I KNOW she believed it to be true.
Unfortunately, she will not eat the crow/humble pie and tell us that.
Rudd dropped his trousers on the party during that campaign.
We went from about 6 seat majority result to Hung Parliament.
It took a while weeks? as Gillard and Abbott BOTH offered the world.
To get power, Gillard was firmly told,Australia was openly, during those negotiations, independents in the lower house Greens in the Senate, insisted publicly on it.
Abbott put things on offer most un Liberal, Gillard found the very thing she did not want, but that helped her destroy Rudd, was her humble pie.
I still think it funny and like the idea her knife has stabbed her, but lie?
Continued.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 5:44:33 PM
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