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Indonesian abattoir workers 'bribed' for TV beef expose

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OMG! I've just found out that I'm a Right-wing, Consevative, Activist. Thanks Lexi.

Having been raised on a Slaughter Yards I alerted everyone I could of the posibility of a con Job by the Left-wing, Greenie, Loopy Activists. I guess someone did a bit of investigsting & now these people have egg on their faces, including the Media.

And by the way. I am neither Left, Right or Centre. I consider myself to be above all that Childish Crap. I think for myself & do some research. I don't follow Party lines, or follow the Loopy Greenie/PC/Learned Academic/Fanatic Activists lines either.
Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 11 August 2011 4:03:59 PM
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Col Rouge,

Loved the "monocular" reference.
I'll pay that.

However, one question. After reading
several articles on the web, a reader
asked: " If the allegations are
true - why weren't they rolled out when the
story broke?"

"Surely the Indonesians would have investigated
and reported this and it would have cleared
their name and would have prevented a huge disruption
of trade?"

What does Liberal Senator Beck actually have as
proof? Merely unattributed quotes. No hard evidence,
no depositions, no interviews, et cetera. His is
merely heresay and wouold not be acceptable in a
court of law.

I agree with the reader who stated, "I think that
some readers don't have the intellectual capacity
to analyze an issue based on the information
written in an article. They read the bits they want
to agree with and discount any other evidence(or lack
of) that confounds their preconceived ideas."

Who told Senator Beck to provide these allegations
now? Had he done so when the story broke he could
have saved Australian farmers from the pain of
having to shoot their own cattle - as well as
do so much damage to the industry. Shame on him.
Posted by Lexi, Thursday, 11 August 2011 4:14:03 PM
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Dear Jayb,

Me too.

Welcome to the Club!
Posted by Lexi, Thursday, 11 August 2011 4:16:18 PM
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Lexi,

A bit of a heroic assumption that the information was available immediately. Given that the worker took a bribe, he might not have been immediately forthcoming.

The other side of the issue, is that Labor stopped the cattle trade without even the whiff of an investigation as to whether this was common or only occasional.

I must admit to some surprise to see people openly mistreating animals in front of strangers.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 11 August 2011 4:46:10 PM
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SM,

Do we know what sort of investigations were carried
out by the government. They didn't decide immediately
either. It works both ways. As for the fact that a
foreign film crew was allowed in a Muslim country
to film the mistreatment of animals in a private
abattoir doesn't sit well with me either.
At this time I'm somewhat skeptical of both sides.
Perhaps years from now we'll get to the truth.
Someone will undoubtedly write something about all this.
Posted by Lexi, Thursday, 11 August 2011 5:54:04 PM
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It is yet further proof of just how much out of touch this government is.

Whether or not this was a set up, the government shut down an entire industry simply because a small percentage may or may not have done the wrong thing.

Incidentally, several of these abbs don't even have refrigeration, so they only kill a few beasts a day/week.

I would also suggest the ABC may be sent with a please explain note!
Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 11 August 2011 6:50:00 PM
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