Suze,
The last time we (U.S.) "went to war" with Somalia, the press got there before the soldiers - they filmed them landing on the beaches and coming ashore.......seems it was more of a stunt than anything.

Kerryanne,

I take your point that it wasn't your idea, yet you seem to agree with his sentiments. This "wise" Prime Minister conveniently ignored all the West's voracious acts of barbarity and destabilisation inherent in colonialisation. It seems that what the West managed to enact was nothing but "interfering with nature" What a load of righteous paternalistic drivel that he then suggested that we wipe our hands of the situation we brought about.

individual,

Obesity and sloth are endemic in Western society - haven't you noticed that most of the population are encouraged to sit on their arses while being ferried about their business, or for the purposes of passively absorbing whatever is on TV? Too much food and not enough movement, but apparently it's a good recipe for economic growth - "because we're worth it".

Lexi
Dear Lexi thanks a relief thank you.

Squeers
I see no reason why people who have worked their bums off to provide a good life for their family’s should feel guilty. There is another prospective your over looking. What about the Muslims helping their own.
Just for a god dam change. The Prime Minister I was told warned us of interfering with the balance of nature. You do realise these people are taught to hate us don’t you Squeers.
Now that doesn’t mean its their fault and we shouldn’t help but
One day the children you save might be the ones to slaughter your own FACT: life

http://makepakistanbetter.com/why_how_what_forum_full.asp?ArticleID=14585&GroupID=22&Group_title=My%20Voice

In the oil rich Gulf, blessed with abundant wealth, where regimes spend billions of dollars in buying weapons, helping weapons industry in the West to flourish, only Kuwait has been dispatching plane loads of food and medicine. Saudi Arabia invested $60 billion on purchasing weapons from West can save these unfortunate Somalis only by giving a billion dollar. However, so far, there were no signs of such human kindness.

Where are the billionaire princes and sheikhs who have turned to West to hide their wealth? On the whole the response of the Muslim world is absolute disgrace. Wealth made them blind to their religious obligations.

individual, I disagree – its education & normally its the poorest that are overweight.

Lexi suzeonline probably has the best idea IF? Its thought its wise.- I am having second thoughts about tramping over more Muslim soil myself tbo

Ok If it were me I would find a trusted Muslim Leader in Australia to get containers of ABC in + a few volunteers but no money

I will like you Lexi go for the crop programme. If suzeonline is whom i think she’s good at research. If anybody ca research anything – she can.Work together & look for a crop that grows in dry climate.
Lexi you have a big heart but- hassle to adopt some kids – but you can’t save the world.T/C

I'm not trying to make anyone feel guilty. I'm alluding to the fact that we live in a globalised world of our own economic making, in the modern area attributable to colonialism and subsequent inequitous interconnectedness. Western wealth is drawn from all corners of the globe, and poverty and famine are just as attributable to these global influences as the wealth. Capitalism is often credited with pulling millions out of poverty, but this is misleading. Millions are not lifted out of poverty; the millions are propagated by their history and modern trade links with the west, and lulled into a false sense of security, hence they breed. If African nations had remained isolated then people would still die during famine, but it's likely without western interference they would be much better adjusted to sustain and weather such visitations. The west invoked the millions and the famines.

And Kerryanne, even if in a few cases the wealthy have "worked their bums off", rather than being merely lucky bastards, hard work is relative and I doubt it compares with those who work their bums off in poor countries for bare survival. In any case, there is simply no justification for the kinds of rewards I alluded to above. No one needs to live in a mansion or enjoy any of the other gross totems of a "successful" life--such that are indulged without a pang in this country while crocodile tears are shed over the poor Africans.
We all have to learn to live sustainably; the starving and unsustainable millions elsewhere are simply the obverse of obscene glut in countries like Australia. It's a global world that we profit from, and at the expense of those who drew the short straw. This is simply a fact.

Squires,
You make no mention of the *filthy rich Muslim nations with their billions in oil turning their back on their own people fact::
Is there any particular reason for the obvious question not to be addressed?
I will say it again- Filthy rich Muslims Nations drowning in billions & trillions ignoring their own.

The average Australian is struggling to survive bogged down with ever rises prices and mortgages. fact:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2006-11-13/survey-shows-sydney-families-struggling-with/1309284

Salvation Army struggles as demand grows : fact

Our conservative independent surveys show that real unemployment * is 19% ¹; that 54% ² of Aussies barely survive on under $15,000 per year; and that 68% ³ have incomes under $29,000. Since the mid 70s one million Aussies were forced to leave rural and regional Australia and move to cities..fact:

Australia is a victim of global trading fact:
Australia is the only country in the world to comply significantly with the World Trade Organization demand that we reduce, and finally, remove all tariffs. Others, including the US, have actually increased their overall level of tariffs.fact:

http://www.oziz4oziz.com/restoring-prosperity---details.html
This country is heading for a recession such as w have never seen- In time we will end up like another third world country if we don’t stop trying to save the world and put our own country first fact:

Aussies are the most giving people on earth and others demand more.

You want me to sell my house my husband and I worked hard for all our lives and put our six children in a humble shack to give while the Muslims with their trillions ignore their own?

You want me to leave my indoor pool for a tent?

Yep thats what you guys are like which what i was trying to warn sweet Lexi about.

I wont say thanks

Will will decide who we help if and when.Personally I am very aware over the over population in the world so I dont have 4 kids or a husband but i will keep my indoor pool all the same thanks!Q

salaam!

Kerryanne,

No one is attempting to "take" anything away from you. You come across as an insular and bellicose first-world person who can't for the life of her see the "fact" that Westerners are both very fortunate and very greedy.
I bet you would never dream that those hordes of procreating Somalis somehow got dudded by the West in the form of that old IMF smoke and mirrors party trick - the "structural adjustment" program.

Here's an article first published in 1993. I hope you'll find time to really read it, especially after the intro and from the heading "The IMF intervention in the early 1980's". It's revealing just how much destabilization ensues from messing up a country's traditional economy - and in Somalia's case it has been devastating.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25725

Poirot,

I am aware of this culture take from the west all the aid you can while we rich Arabs drown in oil money and watch our fellow Muslim die.
I find it deeply offensive when i see little old pensioners struggle to give aid while they sit back doing nothing.
Good people with good intentions like Lexi .
I will help where I can but Australia is always used for aid.
I am offended given everybody was talking about how to help yet still they get dumped on like that.
So Poirot ( cute name) what about the rich Muslims?

Are they insular too or just obtuse