Dear Yabby,

No one is disagreeing with the need of family planning.
BTW - the Stopes Clinics are excellent.
but they're not enough on they're own due to the cultures
and ideologies involved - which is the point being made.
And you need to weigh up Bono's achievements for the poor
on the scales,
alongside his other actions, and see how it balances out.
See the entire picture - and not only one aspect.

Lexi,
That is my fault Lexi and I dont blame you for pulling me up on it either- so sorry. I just re- read my post which I made in a rush and I certainty was not implying you should respond to that rude comment.

No No, indeed what I meant was -- ( and I know you opened this thread with best of intentions.- I meant in view of some peoples comments yes what about the aboriginals. Your correct I or you should start a thread on that topic. Its something I am passionate about tbo

I would simply like to say to you that I know you opened this thread with the best of intentions for the people in Africa.I see it over and over again in life on everyday events & yes in forums where people get shot down for good intentions.

There is a peace about your threads ( normally) I enjoy. I pick up that your a deeply spiritual person even if you dont know that.

( I am not referring to the catholic church either)

We were we having a lovely time chatting away about solving the problems in Africa with sourcing plant crops & spokes persons to get container loads of clothes & packaged foods in.

My point is most Aussies do what they can - but then in comes somebody saying- ah all you westerners and whites should give everything to us. To me that makes me want to give zip! but of course I know its not the people in Africa's fault.

imop When the west stops giving the Churches aids will stop helping and look for another business. Thats when real people can get in and help- until then.

Sorry for the misunderstand T/C

Poirot,

I apologize if you said sorry. I didnt read it and tbo. I only looked at Lexis comment to me. Its ok Poirot I know how belly belly aches a dreams up stuff. If it clears the air for you I can tell you my sister was staying hence she only posted a few times. She joined on her lap top after an opp on her arm ( which is why she was here in the first place). Apparently she used my desk top while i was feeding my horses and messages.
Even had I have seen her I would not have known two people can not be members of a forum just because the same computer is used. eg: if you have five kids( which I dont ) but - how do you tell only one child can be a member of something.
Yes we are alike but i dont see her often & she thought she was helping & cross at the person comment made by belly. Its the truth I am very old fashioned and take offense at cheap talk.
Shes actually quite upset she caused a problem. Shes has left at any rate yesterday evening. Anti, if you open a thread on aboriginals it is a topic i am deeply passionate about.
Sorry Lexi for the interruption to your thread.

That aid center giving 100% ( they say) I donated to.

However i know it wont make a lick of difference to the real problem but thanks for being you to care.

Kerry

http://www.mariestopes.org.au/how-we-help/where-we-work/our-global-partnership-programs

Lexi, Marie Stopes helped over 7 million people in 40 countries
last year. The only thing that restricts them is funding.

There is still a huge unmet need out there, despite all your claims
about culture etc. All this is totally lost on our politicians,
who don't even raise it as an issue or help to fund it.

We'll just focus on what works well on TV, like Bono, like
Climate Change and we'll just push the elephant in the room
under the carpet.

All I'm doing is lifting the carpet and trying to point out
the reality.

Dear Kerryanne,

Thanks for always being so positive.
And from seeing things from the other
person's point of view - and showing
understanding and compassion. I think
starting a thread about our First Australians
would be a good idea.

Many people know a great deal about Australia's
one saint - Blessed Mary MacKillop. I wonder how
many people know anything about a Wiradjuri woman
from Cowra in central-western New South Wales,
Colleen Shirley Smith, known to everyone as "Mum Shirl?"

Over the years, Mum Shirl influenced Father Ted Kennedy
at Saint Vincent's parish in Sydney's REdfern, when he
turned the resources of the church over to caring for
dispossessed urban Aborigines. Extremely well-read in
theology and literature, Ted Kennedy described Mum Shirl
at her funeral in 1998 in Saint Mary's Basilica as
"The greatest theologian I have ever known." She had
taught Kennedy to how to fight for justice. Mum Shirl
didn't suffer fools gladly, and quickly brought the mighty
and righteous down from their thrones, often with some
well-placed four-letter-words. Before joining Redfern parish,
Mum Shirl had been a prison visitor for years and she
had raised as her own more than 60 children who came into
her care. She worked with the Redfern parish to establish
the Aboriginal medical and legal services that now operate
next door to the church. She helped some 6000 people,
ranging from ex-prisoners, children in need, single parents,
alcoholics and young probationers. With no money of her own
she often ran her services on her own sickness benefits.

Dear Yabby,

Keep on lifting that carpet.
You're doing an excellent job
and I for one appreciate it
very much.