If you need to read a good post, go on the Drum and read Waleed's post.
Very interesting.Yes, I think the Norwegian Tragedy is awful, let us hope that these things do not escalate.
NSB

Firstly let's stop the references to Tim McVeigh, he invoked his right to silence and never said a word about the OK city bombing , we don't know what his motivation was.
Secondly, I've read a fair chunk of Breivik's writing over the weekend and he's not mad or "evil" nor does he conform to the other silly labels he's been given like "Nazi" and "Extreme Right".
He's an avowed Anti Fascist, against Racism, pro Gay rights...etc
As noted in earlier posts he's plagiarised a lot of his Manifesto from what can only be termed "Right Wing Zionist" websites.
One of the first rumours that appeared after the attacks was that the gunman was an anonymous writer from the David Horowitz milieu who uses the pen name "Fjordman", this confusion arose from the fact that so much of the killer's writing referred to Horowitz' site "Jihadwatch" and an affiliate "Gates Of Vienna".
Breivik, by all accounts is a classic Political Martyr personality, educated,well liked among his peers,industrious and committed, young but mature in outlook, ironically he's much like a lot of Islamic Jihadis.

However he's wrong, his thinking follows a certain logic but the premise is flawed, his "crusade" was not a "necessary evil" since he had perfectly legal avenues of resistance open to him.
I'm pretty sure that Norway has the same general legal set up for anti discrimination and racial and religious tolerance as other developed countries, so it's perfectly possible to work within those rules and never break them.
What Breivik and those like him don't understand is that Race is real and it matters, if you frame your dissent in a racial way then the law is on your side.
It's true, in Victoria where I live Race is recognised under the law, it doesn't matter what shades of Grey the Anti Whites try to inject into the debate I show legal, non discriminatory dissent as a Racially White Man and the law is on my side.
It's scary to think that "Right wing Anti Fascists" like him are allowed to operate openly in Australia.

@NSB:

Excellent article, which expresses what I was trying to say so much better than I did.

@Lexi:

Yes, yet the MSM are going to great lengths to avoid calling this act of "domestic terrorism" what it is, as Waleed Aly succinctly points out. If it's one of "them" responsible, it's terrorism, bit if it's one of "us" then it's an act of individual madness.

@ csteele:

I too thought of the inflammatory discourse and calls to arms that have been all too prevalent in the MSM and blogosphere of late. Some of these nutters talk relatively openly about weapons buried in poly pipe at the time of Howard's buyback. Without being unduly paranoid, there's not a great gap between some of the rhetoric coming from the lunar Right in Australia and the mad ravings contained in the Norwegian terrorist's manifesto.

With these American-style protest convoys of truckies planned for next month, I think that Australia's police and anti-terrorism forces ought to have a good hard look at some of the hate speech being promulgated in the Australian blogosphere by some of our own homegrown 'Tea Party' wannabes.

Waleed Aly is right, what's the message being sent here?
Right Wing Islamophobes get away with saying things that would land other people in jail.

You can say pretty much whatever you want about Asians, Homosexuals,Aborigines, White People or Muslims if you're a pro Zionist Bible thumper and nothing will happen to you.
Also Ryan Dawson pointed out straight away, hours after the attacks that all Breiviks writing, his blogs, facebook page, videos and manifesto are in near perfect English.
So who are his target audience? People who speak and read English.

A pro Israel Christian would also have a lot to be angry about in Norway at the moment.
The Socialist Party has repeatedly called for Israel to be bombed, the government won't sell Israel any more oil and has recognised Palestinian statehood, even the youth camp which was attacked had held a "Boycott Israel" rally the day before.
One of the first statements I heard from a survivor was"We thought it was a test, to show us what it's like to live in Gaza" and the prime minister saying "They won't bomb us into silence".
I'm pretty sure Jens Stoltenberg wasn't talking about Muslims since at that point Breivik was already in custody.

There's another aspect to this story which Hunter Wallace pointed out on his blog:
http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2011/07/24/the-dark-knight-rises-in-oslo/

What Breivik has done is fused the fantasy world of internet forums and conspiracy theories with his own reality.
This is distinct from someone who is delusional living in a fantasy world, sites like Jihadwatch, Stormfront, Revleft (and the internet generally) allow these elaborate fantasies to be integrated into one's personal life.
So instead of virtual reality or unreality some people, particularly White people live in a sort of augmented reality in which the line between what's real and what's online role playing becomes blurred.
This is not the same as a computer game or a movie because at the other side of an internet post or article is another human being, it's genuine interaction but in a fantasy setting.
I know from experience that if you really want to see the SHTF on one of these V bulletin political forums bringing up this subject of White people and their elaborate fantasy lives is an instant flashpoint.
Exactly the same is true of the Leftist fantasy camp that Breivik targeted, grown ups bringing youths into their world of role playing, which would continue 24/7 on Facebook and Twitter when they got home.
As an old school role playing gamer myself I've seen people go off the edge into the "twilight zone" on more than one occasion, the 80's uproar over "Dungeons and Dragons" was not just a knee jerk reaction by wowsers, kids I knew integrated their fantasy personas into their lives and "lost it".
As Hunter Wallace notes, Breivik is a product of the current "all hope is lost" Zeitgeist of environmental, spiritual and cultural desolation which has now infected the fantasy worlds of Whites all over the world.
There seems to be no place for a healthy White mind anymore, especially not online, you can live out any number of twisted or indeed self righteous fantasies but you can't ever step out of character.

Heartfelt condolences to the parents whose lives and dreams will never be the same.

Fouler than one who carries another cultures hatred to your door, the murderer is from within the house. This creature now wants a platform and a uniform; he wants to make a statement, give him nothing, Islamic extremists are brainwashed committed puppies, he is an anti social sick puppy.