Actually ALL I reckon his meaning of "Imperialism" comes from the Green Left Weekly and only pertains to anything American.

if you per ridicules..or i
or if argentina or usa is living beyond our means
more money wont fix it[only delay it]

usa SUPPOSEDLY HOLDS all the gold in fort knox
cetainly enough..[if its really there]..to pay off their debt
[but its gone...so they got this paper debt..held over those who stole it]

nothing easier..SEIZE THE GOLD
re issue gold backed money like switerland/israel
or whatever..[govts made money..they can unmake money]
CAUSE THE PEOPLE ARE BROKE*..and you cant get more blood from the stone

look what the bvusche delar[bailout achieved]
now industry is GONE...in a few more years MORE industy GONE
all this delay..is only making things worse

usa is broke
eu is broke
send in the capitalists

if they can keep the job cash flowing
they can get the asset

worst case senario
kep the consumer..and keep the worker
print your own money..use the troops to secure assets
run them for the people..not for bankers or capitalists

the current debt is odious debt
made by criminals

designed to bring litle capitalists down
so the few big capitalists..to own it all

while the people pay for it all
again and again...

tax the rich
or eat them
its your choice

but stop bailing them out
with their fiat monetry system
they run and control..for their own GREED

spend the money wisely mr obama
food for your peoople first
if the lanlord kicks em out
build them a new house[for the cost of food]

lock up the criminals
seize their proceeds of crime
GLOBALLY

immediatly
now

no place to hide...!

Pericles:>>
And about that $100 - did you spend it? Of course you did. You put that money back into the economy, in return for which you received either goods or services. Whichever way you look at it, that debt is real. Not fictitious at all.<<

The principal is real, the goods are real, but the interest is a malignant fallacy that becomes an enforceable entity, the creation of capital without industry or exchange, the perfect con.

Pericles you must let go of the concept of usury when attempting to restructure the global economic system as built by the European Banking Cabals, that you believe control nothing. There is no path to a new system without the destruction of the old and who would want to live through that.

Global domination of the economic market is not new, the European Banking Cabals are not new, they financed Europe and its colonial expansion for hundreds of years and they funded the "New World" hence they became the Federal Reserve.

My issue with the cabal is that they have been instrumental in the formulation of the global trade expansion that has seen the global wealth move into the hands of fewer individuals, particularly in the First World and at an astonishing rate over the past 40 years. The enforceable UN mandates that we have been signatories to have the IMF and World Bank as the vehicle for change and the global system of trade and finance used is the one set up and run by the European Cabals.

TBC

Pericles if you had said to the Aussie in the street thirty five years ago that both the government and opposition just signed an enforceable UN mandate that plainly describes how ALL you’re manufacturing was to be stripped and shipped or stripped and dumped within thirty years. That in thirty years we would be importing all but the staples we eat, that the underwear the shirt pants and shoes you wear will be imported. Your television your radio your plates your utensils your flooring your curtains…your everything would be imported and the kids would work in service industries, if they were lucky……..He’d say “your dreaming”.

My father told me when I was a kid that the only ghost that I should worry about is a ghost with two legs, do I believe there are those who want to rule the world...yes. Do I believe the financiers of modernity are involved....yes....Do I believe in ghosts, sadly no, I say sadly because if they did exist it means there is more than this corrupt realm we call home.

“There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”

@sonofgloin: My issue with the cabal is that they have been instrumental in the formulation of the global trade expansion that has seen the global wealth move into the hands of fewer individuals, particularly in the First World and at an astonishing rate over the past 40 years.

Having seen some of your posts here in recent times, I thought there is something you should make yourself familiar with. It's called the Gini Coefficient. It is a measure how much wealth is concentrated. The higher a countries Gini Coefficient, the more wealth in that country is concentrated in the hands of a few. You can find a good description of it on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient

The Wikipedia article has a coloured map. One of the things that sticks out for me on that map is the Gini Coefficient of a country seems to be a very good proxy for how nice it is to live there. It is in a way a measure of how well a countries democracy is working. If everyone gets an equal say, then you would expect them to elect people who distribute the wealth evenly. Interestingly enough countries that do have strong democracies do have low Gini Coefficient's on the Wikipedia map.

Australia is a egalitarian country and it does pretty well, but in the last decade our Gini Coefficient has been creping up.

Now here is something to think about: the carbon tax includes a deliberate piece of social engineering. It shifts wealth away from the rich to the poor. It's not an ideal way to do it. I think the best way to do it is to keep the minimum wage high. But nonetheless, the carbon tax will almost certainly lower our Gini Coefficient, and if the poorer parts of Australia vote with their wallets, they should vote to keep it.

Rstuart, thanks for that link. Let us briefly discuss implementation and the vaunted outcomes such as the wealth distribution which is at the crux of this Labor Carbon policy tailored by Fabian ideology rather than an honest want to reduce "greenhouse emissions".

Gillard needs this tax because we are broke and in debt. During the BER the NSW state Labor government was broke, disastrous state budget forecast, then the BER. NSW Labor received BILLIONS for the BER, we paid double or treble for the same infrastructure that the self managed private schools built. Where did the missing State money go, it went in admin costs charged by the State government. Surprise surprise the next State budget breaks even, where did they get the Billions to sort out the State?

This tax is to cover the need for revenue now. If you believe that the Gillard government has any inclination to help the poor of THIS NATION you are dreaming, the Gillard government believes the only poor are those in the third world. Just over a year ago Gillard told caucus that she did not want to give pensioners more money because they did not vote for Labor and you suggest that a Carbon tax will benefit the unfortunate in our society…LOL.