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i note that northern territory[and fed govt]
spent millions on a 'solar farm'..

[news is that its being mothballed
mainly cause it dont make power at night

ie the official excuse is
we must wait till 'storage' capacity catches up]

now aint that typical
no one needs light in the day

clean energy?
the buzzword should be peak load energy
ie reliable affordable energy when we need it

just cause its cheaper to do 'it' now
how cheap is doing the wrong thing

is the green lobby
getting too much funding/subsidy...too clever by half?

is enron thinking
[the most clever guys in the room]
the right people to be getting bailout/subsidy

who knows
but if the rupert inquiry has proven...anything
police can find crime..

if they look
[reporters can...apparently]

why not police?

there is a conspiricy of silence
on just why police..only police victimless staute law..

and ignore true crime..
that is hurting all of us..[active acts of treason]

how do you sleep at night
Posted by one under god, Monday, 25 July 2011 3:10:20 PM
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Interesting Rabid. Sun Oils in Darwin has been recycling Motor Oil for about 40 years that I know off. Ther3e was a Oil Recycling plant mooted for tbe Beaudesert area (Bromelton) but the Council knocked it on the head. Not the sort of industry they want to encourage into this area. ?. Cooking oil has also been collected for 40 years, that I know off. But I don't know what they do with it. I know it does get recycled.
My father never brought oil for his car. He recycled his own. He had a couple of old glass wine flagon bottles. He'd fill with his old oil & let it sit for a year. All the sediment went to the bottom & he syphoned off the clear oil, heated it to drive out any moisture then he added a tablespoon of powered graphite. Then, back into the car. Then the process started over again. He'd lose about a cup full of oil in the change over, that's all. His therory was that the oil never degraded. It was contanimates & water that caused the wear in the engine. He did change his oil filter about twice a year. It was one of the old types that you could take apart & change the toilet roll.
Posted by Jayb, Sunday, 31 July 2011 6:07:05 PM
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The problem with vegetable oils is the scale of the problem.
Vegetable oils will be fine for those who will not get a ration of
diesel that enables them to continue business as usual.

Food production and distribution will get priority over both fuel and land.

There was a documentary on the History channel last night called the Prophets of Doom.
In it a number of people in the fields of water, finance, economics,
energy and a couple of other fields discussed what we are facing in
the way of risk to our way of life and indeed civilisation.
It was of course more American orientated, but then we are facing
similar problems.

Those who read the energy bulletin and The Oil Drum sites will
recognise two of those taking part, James Kunstler and Nate Hagens.
The upshot was that they agreed that water is the most urgent risk
that we face. The global warming scene did not even get a mention.
It was not stated, but I suspect it was because global warming
requires business as usual but these other problems will rule out
any interest in global warming. It will not be of any significance
by the time we are worrying about water, oil, coal and gas and very
little finance availability.

The current financial difficulties in Europe and the US show that
all these problems together with world food shortages and the arrival
of peak oil signal the start of our contraction.
What we are facing is a complete restructure of our way of life.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 1 August 2011 8:45:37 AM
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