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Playing the man, not the ball.

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Now lets see Steve as you may not have guessed it is a forum and just that, this does not reflect the true member count.

And belly if it takes some of us to remind you lot about what our polititions think of us and our country then we will show you how much they disrespect us.

Yes corruption
Yes deciet
Yes to pediphiles

so the problem for you seems to be the truth.
Posted by tapp, Saturday, 10 March 2007 6:47:15 PM
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Ah Tapp since you are intent on getting into politics let me tell you a few things.
First we you and I must respect this forum, some very good sites have gone because of fears of litigation.
So within the bounds of law here is what I think only about the party I am a proud member of.
The NSW ALP has a few within who let the party down, like most of my mob I am ashamed of them.
ONE not yet proved, crime you describe is so shameful it is beyond shame ,however Tapp can you blame the party for a few?
Are you saying in every party the whole must take the blame for acts of a few?This federal government would have fallen in its first term.
Your 4 man/woman team is it so holy that it could never happen to you?
Tapp your post gives reason to ask you are you and your party anchored in the real world?
Do you have policy's other than insulting every other party?
Are you aware how many need to vote for your party to get just your money back?
One the evidence you present here if it was voting day and only your party stood I would vote informal for the first time in my life.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 11 March 2007 7:32:46 AM
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Thats good to see that you would vote informal.
Did you vote informal on the centenary house affair, maybe not.

One should ask have you even bothered
Have you read labors Veteran Affairs policy, i guess not as this is only a speech and no policy.
One would have to ask why i have formed this party and why the disrespect i carry for the unions as they have forgotten the people, except when it is conveneint for them.
One may ask what would i know about unions, that would be enough, why should i tell you my story when you cant be bothered.

I remember labor changed compo
labor scr#wed the defence
labor scr#wed the veterans
labor scr#wed the people
the recession we had to have.
i wonder how that pm went with his investments.

Lets look at the states wingeing about privatisation job losses.
oh hang they keep selling of public utilities who where run by the public sector.
Maybe you can tell us when NSW will sell the country link rail network as they have already sold off freight.
More public jobs going.

So where is it vote labor i dont care, with complaicancy comes dictatorship, and obedience to your masters.
Posted by tapp, Sunday, 11 March 2007 12:31:29 PM
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Tapp once more you seem intent on driving votes away from your new party not winning them.
No party ever can be all things to all people, that is in government a party must rule as it sees best for all .
Yes if we farm all party's we will find sins that make our skin crawl, we will find some things to complain about that is for sure.
You find no good? can you think your tilt at politics is other a bit far fetched?
Your must understand this thread seems to have more contributing to it who think playing the man not the policy's is wrong.
And it would surprise you to know how many rank and file from the about to be returned NSW ALP say it in writing to the party.
Please read this line again, the party will be returned by the voters.
Is that not a question for every conservative[and small party ] follower in Australia?
Is it not true conservatism has lost its base?
Do you think waiting until Howard is unseated to ask this question is wise?
Has your one man band any plans that impact on a new conservative party?
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 11 March 2007 1:50:04 PM
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Belly you still dont get it

This party is about getting things done
if you cannot face facts well thats your problem.

This party is about fixing the problems no matter if it is a safe seat or marginal.

why
because it is the right thing to do for the people
it is out of respect for the people

both of these are what the majors do not have only the right thing for themselves and respect for themselves.

So you vote your same old way.If you want to solve and fix the problems
for instance explain why the education are still fighting for our children in state schools
Why do schools have demountables,cost cutting or is it good for business,labors business

So you want to play obviously one of these people that believe parliament question time is playtime and not for answering to the people.

change is needed and will come, the people are not as obedient as you want them to be.
Posted by tapp, Sunday, 11 March 2007 4:49:08 PM
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But tapp... his point is that a party cannot be all things to all people, and cannot simply be about trashing the major parties - your posts are so charged with negative rhetoric about the other parties that they end up sounding destructive, instead of constructive.

Here's a few quick questions for you:

-How would you tackle the skills shortage?
-Abortion - what's your stance?
-Welfare: how do you plan to keep unemployment low? what of welfare payments? who qualifies? What do you do to people who don't meet the requirements?
-What do you plan to do about Australia's ageing population? I see your migration policy mentions being choosy about who is let in, but what is the solution to the fact that there will soon be a record number of elderly compared to those in the workforce.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Sunday, 11 March 2007 6:53:40 PM
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