I am ex army med discharged

to many a soldiers word is firm and you have my word.
Maybe you should ask the diggers what their word is worth.

You can either take my word or not that is up to you.

I am not rich like many of these pollies but since i am from the people put my ar#se on the line for my country then the respect for the people and this nation i have, it is about time when somebody says he is going to do something he does it and this party is we will not we will give you the spin.

I dont care if anyone from this party gets in, its about who we are and what we need to achieve for not only this nation but for ourselves the people. You want me to lie to you its not going to happen, and i will not accept any candidates doing anything that will bring this party and its people disrespect.

tapp - you misunderstand me.

I don't doubt you would live up to your word, though the problem is that you can't give your word on behalf of those that will follow you.
It isn't your word I question - as I mentioned before, I think the majority of people who start up political parties have good intentions.

The reason why I favour independents, is due to the fact that they don't profess to be a long term institution.
They will come and go, and with each independent you get a whole new ball game.
The public doesn't get the chance to vote on background policy discussion, and they certainly didn't vote on the degradation of standards in the major political parties (though to be fair, I suspect accountability always has been an issue for Australian governments at all levels).

We do get to vote on independents however and in doing so we are avoiding those aspects of... I suppose 'political reality' is the term.

This would be the same as voting for a newly formed party, though given enough time and new leaders at the helm, that would eventually cease to be the case.

To stray from what is written in the constitution requires a large agreement but them this would alter the partys ethics.
So really it comes down to the independance of the candidates, who would be just like independants but within a group, i dont like that word party as the others have given it the effect of do as we say and that is not what it is about.

If i remember correctly the constitution gives the right to kick those out who do not agree such as disagreeing and standing and not following,but to voice those concerns, and when you get more that voice those same concerns that one that disagrees is not bullied but asked as to why for their point of view.

Sometimes it takes just one person looking from outside of the circle who sees the real issue and problem and to have people follow a party line is undemocratic.

So even within this structure choice is essential.
That is why we are after normal people for the job as it is these people that see the picture for what it is and what needs to be done.

When we get this they are from the community and not just someone moved in to get votes for just the party.

Its about the community and its issues and you will find that even some issues will differ , many will be the same an agreement after the discussion will be made.

Stu

I see your tapp forum has a whopping 5 members. Only 495 to go until you can call yourselves a party.

Good luck on your party Tapp. I'm sure you have the best intentions and as a military man and you stand on your honour. A digger stands for the underdog.

So easy to send troops to war if you have never smelt the stench of death. Only a soldier or someone on the front line knows this.

None of us are "chocos", yet we are still treated like "chocos" in everyday life. Some of us have forgotten what "ANZAC" means. This is demonstrated in how cheap life has become, yet how expensive the cost of living tips the balance.

Thank God for Tim Tams. Hrumph!

Tapp your reference to one who sexually offends against children be littles you.
Without doubt no political party that ever existed in this country would not uncover such a person.
We in debate surely should refrain from such taunts against the whole for perceived crimes of some.
How can you expect support if you play such unfair and unwarranted games?
Is it not dishonest with intent to do so?
Strong rumors have it we may see another small party ofter the federal poll, 8 to 15 from within this government are said to be considering a new conservative party, one that may well not stay small for long.