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And the totalitarian actions of the federal government may soon restrict even these online forums where posters are encouraged to speak the truth - albeit as they see it.

Peter Costello on 22/2/07 announced extraordinary moves to gag activists where the ACCC, on behalf of farmers and other primary producers will get unprecedented powers to sue environmentalists, unionists and animal right activists.

Those activists could include the Wilderness Society, Greenpeace and the Rainforest Action Networks.

There are already laws in place for defamation cases where victims can sue those whose allegations are false.

We saw this with the timber giant company, Gunns' unsuccessful defamation case to sue for $8 million and discredit activists protesting at this company's operations. Gunns is a big donor to the Liberal Party.

Gunns lost the case. One can only assume that the courts realised that these activists had spoken the truth.

The truth, it appears, will not be relevant in the new ACCC laws where anyone who protests against the often appalling operations of these industries will be sued regardless of the facts and Australian farmers will be protected from the boycott.

And so the degradation of our already fragile environment will continue as will the legalised torture of factory farmed animals.

Those concerned with this proposed legislation, should seek an opinion from Labor candidates prior to the next election. I suspect they too, will regard these concerns as frivolous and remain silent in an endeavour to strengthen their own control of the gullible masses

What the people should be doing is asking TAPP
The Australian peoples Party but that is a choice that they have and when they realise that this is not spin or bull but about the people then we can realy make a difference to this cartel and fight for that which is required and not just we said.

My word is just they we will with no spin and full disclosure to the people, as that is who we are.
You can keep complaining or start to stand and make a better choice.

www.tapp.org.au

Another small party holds no hope for Australian voters, and for the party its self.
Further fragmentation of power only wastes both votes and effort.
Within the party's that share the two party preferred vote room exists for all views.
The impending rush away from the brand of conservatism embraced by Howard is likely to see some more small party's in the house and no difference in results.
I am yet to hear from concerned conservatives at the reality of the abyss that conservatives are facing, a new direction? or maybe a new party? it is a possibility we may see a new conservative party if this one can not change direction.

Actually Belly, I think the fragementation of power will help immensely - though I think you're right in that more parties aren't the solution.

I'd bet all parties start out with well meaning people with the best of intentions. Unfortunately, that will always change over time as new people enter the fold.

The solution? More indepedents, not political parties. That's what the idea of democracy was based on.

You can give an acknowledgment to avoid spin, but like it or not, that would eventually be taken out of your hands as the bureacracy takes over.

You can then pledge to limit bureacracy - but bureaucracy doesn't just stifle progress, it also puts a check on the abuse of power.

Sorry tapp. Your party could start out well meaning, but within a few decades it would either be like the other parties, or would perish.

You're better off promoting more independents.

This may just be a small party about choice but if you have a small earthquake this can turn out to be a tsunami.
So you are thinking small without choice and me i am giving you choice than the lies,coruption, and backroom deals,branch stacking and whats that otherone pedophiles, so it seems change is needed as complaisancy has set in with rot and until this rot goes you get these people making deals at the interest of their own and not the people.

If you also had taken the time to read the constitution about candidates one would see this is no ordinary party.

tapp - I'll concede I didn't read the constitution. I did have a bit of a look at the immigration policies (a hot topic right now) but that was about it.

A constitution is all well and good, but can you honestly tell me that your party would never stray from its ideals like all other political parties seem to do?
How can you offer an assurance that future members of the party will all be upstanding people that genuinely represent the party?

Matters such as these are less pronounced with independents, as people are voting for the person and what they stand for - not along party lines.