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Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 4 July 2011 10:32:08 AM
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Damn the Greens and Labor. They won't get hold of my millions.Who cares about increased unemployment as long as big business can continue to make big profits.
I agree with Tony Abbott, we should pay the polluters to pollute more. We have enough of the workforce so we can tax them more to pay the polluters. Who cares about unemployment Tony Abbott will solve the problem by shutting more hospitals, getting rid of trains and buses, shutting down universities, eliminate pensions, and everything will be right. Thank God for the Liberal Party, I love the boys. Why do we need the Greens they don't do anything but try to improve our social fabric and that only cuts into my big profits. Great Big New Tax? I'm only concerned about my Great Big New Profits. And if the boat goes down - I have my corporate jet to take me to safety. Posted by Aquarius, Monday, 4 July 2011 11:53:06 AM
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The once great Australian Labour Party ( yes the good old gungadins took the 'u" out when they decided that they were above getting their hands dirty, founded in Queensland ( it is amazing how much QLD has contributed to the progress of the Australian nation) in 1891. The faceless men who run the factions of the modern creature called the ALP share no DNA with the mighty shearers strikes and coal miner strikes at the turn of the twentieth century.
The ALP is unelectable in its own right. Its core supporters are unions ruled with an iron fist and unions led by timid rabbits too scared to stand up to the bullies.The events in Greece are an indication of the repertoire of the so called socialist left. The baby boomer generation men got it too easy and everyone is paying for it now. We are all paying economically and environmentally. Leadership has to come from somewhere. As always the great danger is from demagogues.Just as men in Greece are only interested in 20-30 years retirement on a state pension( like yeah) protected species of workers in Australia like car makers and coal miners ( there is the whole climate change problem right there)will resist change because they never learnt the work adapt. I read somewhere recently the human race has a window of five years to choose whether to go extinct quickly or slowly. That apparantly is the only offer on the table. Posted by Hestia, Monday, 4 July 2011 11:58:01 AM
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Aquarius not every one under stands you are a green care to come out of the cupboard.
Have no doubt if Shadow Minister Tony Abbott Christopher Pyne had one wish, one plan, it would be to see the greens grow, just a bit. OH YES slam me, kick me bash me, for doing just what the greens are intent on, putting my party first. An attempt today, to install one of nine greens to head the senate maps out the future. DIVIDE and Conquer, JUST TWO YEARS AGO, GREENS DID NOT FIGHT WARS WITH labor. brown DECLARED WAR ONE HE CAN NOT WIN. Morgonzola, I thought better of you, you infer my thoughts ideas and view points are made for me by media! A charge conservatives level at me, can you not debate me without that insult? Am I wrong in these three questions I ask of you? 1 Is it true more dislike/distrust the greens than vote for them? 2 Is it true the greens want in defense to withdraw our troops and stand on our own , what about our treaty's. 3 You should proudly stand by your thoughts here. is it true, your policy's on boat people amount to open door. It is mate! Supplementary 4 if so is it not true MANY MORE BOATS WILL ARRIVE? Posted by Belly, Monday, 4 July 2011 12:16:43 PM
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Belly, I don't know why we're concerned about the boat people. Each year thousands arrive by plane. It is faster, cheaper, and safer than boats. We process them at the point of arrival on the mainland in our capital cities and either send them back or put them in detention centres. There are television documentaries on that topic every week.
"Border Protection," and "Customs." People that come by boat are entitled to the same rights as those that come by plane. It is boat people that make headlines in the newspapers, stir up politics, and get everybody talking. We all know that proportionate to the total arrivals they make up a very small percentage and unfortunately we take advantage of the misery of these people. As for the Greens, there has always been some party or group "Democratic Labor Party," "The Democrats," and who knows what names they will choose in the future. There will always be people that want to be different from the two party mainstream. Isn't that how the "Country Party" and the "National Party," were born? In any society where people's thoughts are controlled by a majority or minority rule we call that dictatorship. There will alwsys be those that will have an alternative view and that should be encouraged in a democracy. If we listen some of what they say may be beneficial for the whole nation. Posted by Aquarius, Monday, 4 July 2011 12:47:33 PM
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Belly
"The information is contained in a Federal Parliament background note on boat arrivals. "The majority of onshore asylum seekers actually arrive in Australia by air with a valid visa and then apply for onshore protection through Australia’s humanitarian program at some stage after their arrival," the note, authored by Jane Phillips said -- referring to figures issued by the Department of Immigration. RELATED: Dept. Immigration - Monthly Detention Snapshot, May 2009 Most of these applicants receive a bridging visa upon lodging a protection visa application. In most cases, the bridging visa allows the applicant to remain lawfully in the community until the protection visa application is finalised. Boat people 'usually genuine refugees' Ms Phillips says those who arrive by boat, in any country, are more likely to be accepted as genuine refugees than those who fly. Of the boat arrivals, past figures showed between 70 and 97 per cent were later found to be genuine refugees. The majority arriving by plane were not found to be refugees, the report said. Most people in detention visa over-stayers Detention is mandated for all unlawful non-citizens in Australia. Over much of the past two decades people in immigration detention have predominantly been visa over-stayers, unauthorised air arrivals, and those whose visa has been cancelled, rather than those who have arrived unauthorised by boat, the paper said." From: http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1295782/asylum-seekers-where-australia-stands Yours truly leave to continue bashing her head against wall because it is less painful than repeating facts ad nauseum. Posted by Ammonite, Monday, 4 July 2011 12:56:17 PM
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The Victorian branch of the Electrical Trades Union gave $325,000 to the Greens ahead of the last federal election to assist the party with its successful campaign to wrest the seat of Melbourne from the ALP.
ETU state secretary Dean Mighell declared at the time the Greens were the only party with "decent IR policies".
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/greens-rookie-ready-to-rock-the-boat-on-donations/story-fn59niix-1226086776537
The greens also get donations from CFMEU construction division and the Communications Electrical and Plumbing Union.
Morgonzola,
With all due respect, just about everything the greens do is directed towards income re distribution under the "social justice" banner.