Dear Moganzola,

Thank You for a rational, well reasoned post. So refreshing to read. It's pleasing to read a post such as yours - from a superior debator who does not need to stoop to personal attacks. Sound reasoning will conquer unreasonable generalisations every time.

Lexi,

"Why do the Greens need an assault on Labor when they're in Coalition with them and seem to be co-operating quite amicably. In the meantime they will win a few seats from Labor and a few seats from the Liberals."

Have you read any newspapers at all?

The seats the Greens are getting are from the left wing of the labor party not from the coalition. When they get seats from lib preferences, they would certainly have gone to labor otherwise.

As for their co operation, it comes at a price. For example, just yesterday Juliar said "petrol will be out now and out for the future", but now it appears the greens have won a review of this by the productivity commission in 3 years, making her a liar again.

Morganzola,

I am fully aware that the greens' agenda extends far beyond ecological issues, but one thing they don't stand for is economic growth. "Social justice" means high taxes and big government spending, pretty much where the labor party were firmly entrenched in the 70s. This type of socialism has been tried and failed.

I without doubt, am one of Morgans SHRILL commentators.
And GUILTY I AM!
I too am informed, oh yes I take the willow branch to my party's back.
But without reserve I fear long term, DECADES, of conservative government.
Sponsored by?
The foolish with in my party,who think our problems come from leaving our old worn and torn shoes.
Putting on runners and joining the majority.
They think bending twisting turning back then trying to keep up will serve.
Gillard is such a person.
And those who hide within the greens, but give preference to Labor, so feel they are kicking us for not being in opposition with their policy's.
It is true, Morgan will say no, but it is, middle class higher income kids in private schools type are the back bone of the greens.
It is true, tell me it is not ,the defense policy's of the greens leaves my country standing ALONE if war comes.
Tell me,regardless of its impacts stopping the use of COAL ASAP is not greens policy's.
Talk to me of long term migration policy's of the greens.
Be honest Morgonzola, you your self are not bad at insulting us, me too in the post Lexi praises you for.
What is your policy on boat people.
Now yes,you ALWAYS do much better in ANY POST than some,I take on board your dislike of my view point.
But mate you ride as Abbott does on the back of my party's bad acts leadership and policy makers.
In truth had Rudd not fallen you would have lost not won votes.
More Australians now and forever will never vote for you than do.
IF that is STRIDENT so be it.

As I thought, the anti-Green hysteria being encouraged by some is evidently based on tabloid/shock jock disinformation, rather than upon firsthand information that is easily located and accessed. Belly's assertion that the Greens would have us "standing ALONE if war comes" is a good case in point. The only Greens policy I can find that comes anywhere close to justifying this lie is the one that calls for Australia's withdrawal from ANZUS if our allies under that treaty continue to breach flagrantly international standards on human rights, e.g. the US use of torture, DU weapons etc.

Not quite as inaccurate, but also based on ignorance, is SM's claim that social justic means big taxes and big spending. Social justice means protecting human rights, particularly those of the most vulnerable and disadvantaged people in society. Yes, it costs money, but this can be redirected from other areas of budget expense, but SM evidently hasn't bothered to look.

One thing that would certainly improve the tenor of both government and political debate would be if participants in both would commit to arguing and acting honestly, instead of employing the mendacity which has become almost normal in such debates in Australia.

I would have thought that Brown standing up & spruiking a world government should be enough to frighten any sensible Ozzie.

It's not enough tor this fool to want to give far too much to corrupt organisations like the UN, he wants to give our birthright away as well.

Stupidity is alive & well, & growing among inner city elites.

Quantumleap

Love your sense of humour, you should ask Col how he feels about homosexuals before asking why he wouldn't see Bob Brown as a reasonable PM.

However, I understand the Greens do not wish to play at leaders, rather to provide much needed balance in a two party system in which both sides have forgotten their philosophies along with the will to govern FOR Australia. Liberals are not liberal and Labor is not about workers. Both sides are about winning elections.

Morganzola, you have directed the unwilling to the Green Pool many times, even if they have taken a drink their physiology has mutated into a political blindness as to render them unthinking.