Noisy..., they used to be core and non core promises.

I still do not understand what SM is obsessed about. The PM has not denied she said it. The PM has said she still does not like a carbon tax, but it is the only way to get to a preferred carbon pricing mechanism.

This is what we now should be debating.

SM, I have come to the conclusion that you are unable to debate the climate change proposals. You are left with the only option of attacking the person.

Noisy Scrub Bird welcome, and while liking your style do no blind your self, Flo you too.
Now Gillards polling with not turn around because we want it to.
she willo not be re elected by the votes of ALP forever types like me.
Australians don't hear, have no intention of every hearing , she told no lies, she did not but such is life.
Look the other way if you wish, I do at Abbott.
No worse fool liar person ever lead his party.
MickC bloke John Winston Howard is on record saying plebiscites are unneeded.
Abbott is on record, yes he is ,saying disruptive oppositions are wrong.
I vote for a party knowing its full stated plans, its DNA its likely moves and except that.
I unlike many know the policy's and intentions of the other side.
Recently, like one third of my fellow travelers voted conservative in NSW to unseat my party,represented by slugs grubs and failures.
80 million dollars for a plebiscite are you aware it would be the same for a stand alone vote as you call for.
80 million dollars , how many times in 4 years.
80 million dollars! how much difference to aged care, or pre school care,maybe health, or we could build housing for our first people.
Housing for street people, NA, just like Tony the show pony wast it while screaming about our deficit.
Tony Rabbott must/will fall he lacks policy and substance.

OK Shadow Minister,

Here's a quick broken O'Farrell promise off the top of my head -

They promised to re-open Gulgong Hospital (without checking the facts) but then backed down after the election when it was found there was a Workcover issue which would cost a bit more money to fix.

They offered to build a multipurpose centre instead and would gladly take credit for that decision.

However, these are funded by the Federal Government.

Then there is the matter of seat belts on country school busses. Many urgent assurances given before the election but then such matters are dropped into "let's form an advisory panel" limbo afterwards where they are left to fade away and die.

Politics is "a strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles".

It amazes me that you think that only one side is free from the same disease.

As long as they have loyal footsoldiers to out and do their dirty work for them, they will never need to change.

SM,

In answer to your question about where Tony Abbott has lied, backtracked with the truth and so on...

The following may job your memory:

http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/18/tony-abbotts-struggle-with-the-truth/

Pot-kettle-black.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/times-up-for-teardown-tony-20110624-1gjiv.html
Both sides will be both happy and unhappy with this link.
I am content,this paper is fast becoming our country's best.
And I find truth in every word for and against both party's