MickC YOU DO always HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO YOUR OPINION AND to change your mind.
But give me that right too, if you consider my every day use in my past job, and strongly held view.
That people should only *Tell me what you really think, not what you think I want to hear*
You will understand I very much listen/read/consider all views.
Mate at that final stage, after the whole issue is rolled around chewed and regurgitated a choice is made.
If we ever intend to progress that point MUST COME I stand by my thoughts, in fact challenge thoughts based only on emotions.
I do not intend to insult those women, believe me , but how,tell me, can emotions be the measure.
A debate can only be civil Mick, if both sides look for answers and except no human being who ever lived or ever will is always right.
That thread is a dry dam, fishing in it will be unproductive, I no longer will.
In matters of world trade and food production we Australians and the world can not live in isolation.
FIRST SECOND and last the Cruelty must end.
IF Mick our trade does then looking for better outcomes will too, a century from now cattle may still die this horrible way.
Because we acted on emotion not common sense.
Stay around Mick we will agree some times but lets not forget we can learn from one another.

MickC and others not unlike most posters I wandered from the intended directions of a thread I started.
It had been my intention to look at the world wide debate on climate change,the less than civil debate there, and in Australian politics.
We took a turn, partly as a result of my words with our new poster, and things being said in a thread I only visit to read a question has arisen.
Remember how I told of being taunted, to name myself here?
And that I did so, suffering repercussions because I did?
I have always posted as me, Bell is my surname,any can find my name here.;
I understand sometimes , it is best to get a new start a new posting name,two here have done so and I support them totally.
But others appear to be different, why, I stand right or wrong, by my comments,and support good reasons to change names we post under.
But some times it stretches the friendship.
And sometimes? is hypocritical,

It may well be that I in posting this, am talking to myself.
But while not uncivil debate the issue of multiple personality's is being aired yet again.
Maybe it is just a shadow,a thought without evidence.
No intention to say anyone is posting here under two or more tags, sock puppet.
But is it ok to claim to be one person, and actually be another from another time here too.
A twist to the well talked about unmasking, at best unwise as everyday shows, the Internet is a place to be wise.
We leave behind us in forums much about our selves, some thoughts we no longer hold and some we wish we had not.
But the ability to shed our skin ,become some one else, does it contribute to civil or uncivil debate?

Belly, not quite talking to yourself.

I've got mixed views on changes of name. Some have done it gracefully, making it clear that it's just a change of name, others seem to have done it to deceive.

I've thought of name changing a couple of times to get a more expressive name but so far it's not something I've taken seriously.

R0bert

your not talkin to your self mr bell
often when people dont got nuthin to say
its cause its allready been said

dont take things personally
juliar and phoney toney love each other
[their name calling is fore-play]

often its 'best mates'...[happy families]..
who got the worst hates..look at hawke/keating

changing the name
dont change what we are each trying to say

i have only used one under god..for years
[i refuse to change...as that name is what i posted
all my post/info under...

its really upsetting
to be accused of name changing..
when its a thing i refuse to do..on principle

i may have been right on occasion
ignored on other..but those who seek to know me
ned only look under the one name..not my real name..

but the part my posting seeks to return back to
the first cause...[god]..that we become as one under god

he comes first.
.then[to him]..he puts us first..

but we all rate second..
only to good[god]

when will we all be
as 'one'..under god?

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