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Delcine pf Civil Debate

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Dear QL,

I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. And I've also learned that whenever I decide something with an open heart, I usually make the right decision.

Dear Individual,

Thank You. A kind word or deed doesn't cost much - yet it often makes a big difference to someone.

Dear Belly,

I think part of the problem in today's society is that malignant thought form that "other people are the problem." Conservatives tend to blame Labor for our problems, while Labor blames conservatives. The media blames almost everyone, and almost everyone blames asylum seekers. Some people are convinced that homosexuals are the problem, while others think that single parents are the problem. Still others think that the Christian Right is the problem, and far too many people think that bad parents are the problem. The entire culture seems to have become a hysterical blame session.

Yet a healthy vital society is not one in which we all agree. It's one in which those who disagree can do so with honour and respect for other people's opinions and an appreciation of our shared humanity.
Without personal commitment to the attributes of fair play and integrity, our society is in grave danger. Malice and intolerance stalk our society striking claim to our minds, and not one corner of our social order is unaffected. It doesn't matter so much how we've degenerated into this mess - what matters is that we commit to making a change to this infantile finger-pointing beginning with ourselves.

It's more important that we renew dignified and respectful dialogue with those who do not agree with us than we keep congratulating those who have the wisdom to see things our way.
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 12 June 2011 12:16:16 PM
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Thanks OUG just can not lift the mental block today, but will return to your instructions and LEARN soon.
Social isolation, wanted not forced, has a hand in this problem.
So many have for gotten how to communicate without insulting others.
And that they too, may just be wrong,I share the stated opinions on Bolt, would not assist him in a bush fire.
See I am guilty of less than civil debate.
In the midst of our increasing failures to talk things out we do not get the best answers.
NO ONE can say with certainty any question is totally right.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 12 June 2011 12:16:17 PM
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I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. Yeah! well isn't that a two way street! If you insult me, an eye for an eye comes into play, and dont put any guilt trip on me, the world is a ugly place, and I wonder who made the people feel this way?..hey! Dont be a smart arse lexi, cause there's a fine line between smart and just being an arse. For legal reasons, would you care to explain your post to everyone please.

"I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel."

Humans Lexi, what you still haven't figured them out yet....Oh you poor simple thing:)

LEA
Posted by Quantumleap, Sunday, 12 June 2011 12:53:28 PM
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Dear QL,

I won't play nasty with you.

You must try to grow beyond wanting a shallow fight
on this public forum - or you will subsequently be ignored.
No one likes, or supports an abusive, illogical or weak
debater
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 12 June 2011 1:08:11 PM
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Dear Lexi.

A weak and illogical? lol You are a funny person, however I will endeavor to satisfied your level of debate, on the grounds its the right thing to do.

In the house of parliamentary "so-call adult" discussion, there seems to be quite the opposite. IMO our leaders show people how the debate can quickly go out-of-control and resembles nothing more than a school yard fight, but of course as both sides of the banana parties beats their chest at each our, other counties have the grace of a flightless bird.

I think generally people are extremely stressed at the currant climate, and who could blame them. I'll be surprised if the good old days return as many think it will.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXw90MJsFoA

Thank goodness its not like this here.

LEA
Posted by Quantumleap, Sunday, 12 June 2011 2:10:19 PM
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Ammonite “Well, unless you consider Col Rouge the shallow end of the civil pool.”

Wherever I am in what you declare as the “civil pool” at least I tend to direct my comments, civilized or otherwise, to a person in response to their comments

I would note, in this matter you seemed to have picked my name out of thin air, for what purpose I have no idea

Ammonite, maybe you could elaborate for us all –

how your own random selection of me for what is a weak yet veiled criticism advances “civil debate” and does not achieve the opposite

Actually, one observation to “civilized debate” I would make is an obvious decline in spelling standards –
I am referring not to some comment written in the “thrust and parry” heat of debating a point but in the title of this thread, which I presumes was constructed with due consideration to its anticipated presentation.

Ammonite “Maybe Belly is right - there is a decline in civil debate. Watching parliament is just embarrassing - no matter what your political affiliations.”

Maybe you should read some of the cartoons published in London by Hogarth and Gilray and their colleagues and the lampooning and sarcastic denigration of all and every politicians…..

those guys were doing their stuff 200 years ago….
So there is nothing new in todays approach to politics….. actually Ammonite, since you chose to make random observation of my style of writing I feel free to make an observation of you

Try thinking and maybe researching before putting crayon to paper… it helps avoid giving us the impression of your absolute naivety
Posted by Col Rouge, Sunday, 12 June 2011 2:52:51 PM
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