Lexi,

Yet another mumbo jumbo motherhood statement with no specifics.

shadow asked of lexi
""could you stand back and say
..what the average Australian will gain from it?
i wont reply at this stage
but note lexies reply
[so will append that]


LEXIE/quote..."SM,

Very simply
we can only hope""

i would expect more certainty than hope
[but will let that pass thriough to the keeper]

hope....""that this will ensure the survival of our children""

of all the threats
put out by the end/time co2 change-lings
i havnt heard any saying your kids going to die
so lets say the kids will survive...

and are more threatend by disease
or war or accident...[which govts havnt figured out/how to tax[...YET!}..

""and their future generations""
thats not a real threat or danger
stranger danger is more real a possability

""as well as the animal species""
now there we have some threats
like a few degree temp change...[lol]..
could kill some sensative species..[so we are told]

BUT hey look at the wether reports
there is a ten degre DIFFERNCE betwen day/night temps
a few degrees is being a bit sensative[or alarmist]

how about the much convoluted 'evolution'..
that ALLWAYS allows for a surviver
that adapts to..*ANY* change

[think of dino-sores extinction events
please note/recall..*SOMETHING SURVIVED..!

critters/..""with which we share this planet
instead of becoming a dead planet
like the rest of our solar system.""

guess what
earth is going to die
it will get cold...it will get so hot
that eventually the sun burns..us/it to its basic element's

[BUT RECALL
science..speculates*..]
that life came from other-places
..[outer-space][extra/terrestial]....'life'

so let me recall
your own words
to relieve your own fears

""If you don't understand that,
then there's nothing further to discuss.""

if you cant name names
make specific predictions
that when refutted refute the topic
then we are being scammed...

[i say we but exclude me
/and 68%..of the people..who have not
been begotten at..[baffled by the lies]

see your fears..are groundless
the puff/spin/lies..stand on feet/found-ations of sand

SM,

Ignorance is the major cause of disconnects between people. This often leads to narrow-mindedness and, worse, to an "us-them" divide.
Ignorance, whether a result of narrow religious teaching or cultural learning or political beliefs, is one determinant of behaviour. It doesn't account for every aspect of human behaviour. For example, it doesn't account for self-interest.

It is important to recognise that - in any population of people there is likely to be a proportion of very self-interested people, as well as a majority of people who are most capable of seeing the wisdom of living by a golden rule of co-operation and reciprocity.

It is therefore necessary to recognise that there are people for whom greed comes to supplant other human attributes and aspirations.

Finally, I understand your lack of comprehension skills. But that's out of my hands. You and your political party does not deal with specifics. You're only capable of demanding them from other people, when you've got nothing else.

It doesn't work. As you will eventually find out.

Lexi,

I prefer to have the facts and data about global warming and other topics instead of the shallow sound bites and motherhood statements of which you appear so fond.

http://www.biocab.org/Geological_Timescale.jpg

Just look at the CO2 levels over the past geological periods, and the corresponding temperatures. Levels have been as high as 2000ppm while life existed on earth. There is no danger of life on earth being extinguished any time soon, and to claim so is raw ignorance.

I have asserted that the carbon tax will do little if nothing without a global agreement. This is the fundamental flaw in Labor's argument which you and others have not even tried to refute, and Labor refuses even to talk about.

This is politics. Ignore the inconvenient facts.

Shadow ,
An interesting graph. In any one but the most doctrinaire disciple of AGW it must inspire some scepticism.

And, here’s another:
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html

And what (should) inspire even more scepticism, is the observation that most of the same people, on OLO, who advocate heavily for AGW-- and all its trappings -- are also in the forefront of other New World Order Snake Oil schemes.

lexie your arnt dumb
so why act like it?

cant you see this is like a school bully
demanding half of your lunch money
via threats that are delusional

you might think of me as a stooge for industry
if this makes you fel better..but mate.look at which INDUSTRY is reaping in your current tax subsidies...!

how much of your power bill's increase..[50%..in 4 years]
has gone to subsidising solar cells for those big users who got a spare grand..or who's 3 monthly bill comes near that

my current bill is 57 dollars
for me the input/grand [1000]..is equal to 20 bill peeriods
for you who's bill is 500..its two bill periods

my carbon tax useage is just over one ton per year
[plus i ride a push bike..so no extra taxes there either]

thing is mate its a scam
we will be together paying 25 BILLION per year[@25 per ton]
when the total grenhouse gas/income FOR USA IS 6 billion..[$us.]

business has put forward 10 $ per ton
kevin said 5

your greedy commie/greenies want nothing less that 40$ per ton
and what sort of job would greenies like to do..[sell solar cells?]
[trade in carbon credits?]..spend govt money?

tell the bully
NO more fre lunches
buy your own lunch..stop taking your meat from my plate

THINK HOW MUCH ALL THIS EXTRA INDUSTRY
building solar cells/wind turbines
is doing to industry

[THAT POLUTES IN BUILDING THESE TEMPORAY FIXES]
solar cells got a max life of 25 years
wind is so high maintance..as to cost 4 times the TRUE rate of coal

then we got the other lies
building infastructure

IE
GAS PIPEline'S..to/from..*COAL*seam GAS wells
over 40,000 of em on the east side of oz
each leaking methane

[100 times worse that co2]

if it dont all make sense
ITS SPIN>>>!