The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > General Discussion > BBC;Al Qaeda does not exist.

BBC;Al Qaeda does not exist.

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. Page 4
  6. 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. ...
  10. 13
  11. 14
  12. 15
  13. All
Arjay
History reveals that often truth is stranger than fiction and aything is possible.

However, why do you take on board the impossibility of such a coup by a small group, but cannot take on board the improbability the potential for leaking and error in a greater conspiracy involving the US Government. Certainly there may have been knowledge as is mooted about Pearl Harbour.

I have read much of the 9/11 theories and there are some illogical conclusions in some of it albeit some good questions as well - that does not hold up the conspiracy theorists. One of the claims is the 'controlled explosion' theory but very few of them mention the presence of aviation fuel after the crash, broken gas lines and electrical cables - not difficult to see why there could be an explosion as a natural consequence of the crash.

You should read some of the 'debunking 9/11 conspiracy' sites as well Arjay.

The following is how one could easily jump to a conspiracy conclusion. In today's Canberra Times there was an article about the US incursion in Pakistan to kill OBL knowing that Wikileaks was soon going to release cables from Guantanamo where information was sourced about OBL's courier; and it was following that courier that led to discovery about OBL's whereabouts (apparently).

It could be interpreted two ways. First: the US wanted to hide the fact that they were aware of OBL's whereabouts for some time and were choosing to protect that location for all sorts of conspiratorial reasons, thus leading the mission to kill Osama bin Laden to stop 'him talking'.

The second interpretation could simply be knowing that Wikileaks cables were being published hastened plans to target OBL given the information, once revealed, would ruin future operations and opportunities. So Jeronimo proceeded despite the fragile relationship with Pakistan. The fragile and diplomatic tensions with Pakistan could be the main reason for failure to act before now.

Sometimes there are conspiracies, sometimes there is whitewash and cover ups to hide incompetence but all possibilities should be considered in the mix.
Posted by pelican, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 9:09:45 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
el per-ridicules..wrote quote

arjay wrote quote<..
""Al Qaeda"">

per..""Here's some "hard scientific evidence" for you:

"Qaa`idah"

ahh some say tomato
others say potato

others talk in chalk and cheeze

""with pretty much all the connotations
those words have in English.""

im sort of seeing one word
change into spin right before my eyes

not sure if this relates to arjays 'woprd'
or pr's word

""It comes from the root""
oh from mossad co-intel
got ya

""..referring to sitting down..or descent""

""It""
which it pers
'al quada'
or
"Qaa`idah"

""can refer to a literal foundation,""
founded/funded..by the cia/mossad

""to something fundamental
in a more abstract sense""

lol
thats why the word seem so different?

""It""

which it dear learned pr?

""can also mean "database."""
ie collected intel?
collected dis-info?

"Qaa`idat an-nusous al-qanouniyyah
al-muta`alliqah al-hay'aat at-tashree`iyyah al-`arabiyyah"

is "The database of legal texts
pertaining to legislative Arab constitutions/conditions."

intersting my arab teachers

but what does el toilet
have to do..with your teaching?

there aint no pips
in chips

unless ya squeeze a lermmon on it
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 9:26:09 AM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
C'mon one under god, that's silly. Even for you.

>>arjay wrote quote<..""Al Qaeda""> per..""Here's some "hard scientific evidence" for you: "Qaa`idah" ahh some say tomato
others say potato others talk in chalk and cheeze.<<

In case it had escaped your notice, this site does not reproduce Arabic script. I tried, but Qaeda came out as &#1602;&#1575;&#1593;&#1583;&#1577;

So phonetics are the best tool to use in the circumstances. And if you cannot understand the connection between Qaa`idah and Qaeda, then it is probably better if you kept that information to yourself.

Have a great day.
Posted by Pericles, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 9:45:29 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
pericules..i usually respect your mind
but mate..please get informed

this isnt about...'names'
its about being fed lies..to distract from POSSABLY worse things

there are worse things
than letting capitalisms rules do their thing

the world is broke..dont be getting govt into more debt
fiddling while the new rome burns
http://dailybail.com/home/martin-weiss-us-ranks-33rd-out-of-47-nations-for-credit-risk.html

bailing out criminals..lol
let the true values fall where they may
http://snardfarker.ning.com/video/us-debt-rating-should-be-c

ONLY then govt takes over...from the federal reserve
then the bankers then to btroke/business..

salvage each
as each fails

but keeping the workers getting their pay..*
[workers are consumers]

they dont deserve more lies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGelSxTzvGU
those who decieved the president
need to know he aint busche

the lies must end somewhere
http://dailybail.com/home/zuckerman-rips-obama-for-failed-deficit-leadership-the-us-is.html

[and bringing on the big earth quake*
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/03/missouri.levee.breach/index.html?hpt=P1&iref=NS1
wont fix things..only make things worse]

your debating about names mate
so what

lets esamine the facts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q98-d51-Lbs
no more lies

remember this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OW4A-yd9BI&feature=player_embedded
or this
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/white-house-changes-story-how-bin-laden-was-taken-down
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/05/administration_backs_off_tale_of_osama_bin_laden_using_wife_as_human_shield.php
http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=90017
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZBYaWSAWeY
while the bbc reports
this[over 20 times]
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110502/wl_mideast_afp/israelpalestiniansgazamusicbarenboim

and this once
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mztfFdpd1Rk&feature=player_embedded

nor report on this at all
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/the-photos-israel-forbids-you-to-see-by-law/

we heard about this
but not the detail
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/finally-in-english-agreement-between-fatah-and-hamas/

us got no money for teachers
but money for 300 guards to 'guard' 172 el-cia-arda[stooges]
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,760127,00.html

or attack some students
http://theintelhub.com/2011/05/02/homeland-security-and-police-attack-wiu-students-g20-style-police-state-in-full-force/

while settinmg up othersx
even before el bin laden gets snuffed
[again]

mate its a psy-op
http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/blog/nepos-libertas/false-death-osama-bin-laden-perfect-psyop-propaganda-promote-gullibility-america
conning obama
with a new osama
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=14812
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1382828/Osama-bin-Laden-Why-given-traditional-Islamic-burial.html
bush/cheeney two point 2

want more photo shops?
http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/Esteri/2011/05/03/pop_osama.shtml

they KNOW we dont believe the 2 party spin again
http://lonestarwatchdog.blogspot.com/2011/05/21012-should-be-year-to-vote-no.html

just like we gave up believing in bogey/man
and relying on the media

sought out new info sites
http://whatreallyhappened.com/

started blogging the truth
first alone..then together
then amoung others

but then we got shut down
by those payed to spin

and then
well who knows
first it was the old feeble..then the sick[and the unborn]
in time it was the jews..the smokers..the big poluters
then they came for you
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 10:31:44 AM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Not so, one under god.

>>pericules..i usually respect your mind but mate..please get informed this isnt about...'names' its about being fed lies..to distract from POSSABLY worse things<<

My post was about names:

Arjay: The name Al Qaeda is an Arab slang word meaning toilet.

Pericles: That's just witless propaganda, Arjay. Stop getting sucked in so easily.

If it is about "being fed lies", then I strongly suggest that both Arjay and you do some simple sanity checks, before leaping into print about the most absurd rubbish imaginable.

Because the "lies" aren't always where you think they are.
Posted by Pericles, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 11:21:44 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
anyhow bbc was wrong?
just because some perry wrote a book

in case you missed it
while you were literally sleeping
last night on bbc [world have your say]

do have a listen pericules
you might just learn something

funny enough plitics attracts the best and worse
mainly worse

its only because clever people refuse to think
or change their minds[because thats admitting their wrong]
that the world is they was we let our leaders make it

sasdmabn insane did have wepens of mass destruction?
did have mobile chemical factories

was trying to make an a bomb
israel dont got no nukes

it must be nice to have a choice
TO..*chose..to be selectivly ignorant
and yet come across as being all so darn clever

fact remains its easier to prove a thing true
than proove a lie faulse

your just taking the easy way out
by ignoring any proof..cause then...you would have to do something

[the usual thing your type does now
is read all the links
then pick on one

saying you picked 'it' at random
and reveal its a lie

so do your worst
cheers

do try to catch up

bbc is a propaganda arm of the brit security ser-vices
yet even it is feeling the heat..from all the lies

the sky can only fall once
we believed the lie of 911
we believed the lie of iraq
were meant to believe lies..meakly accepting ccccrap is food

rubbish in
rubbish out

donr believe everyting govt allows the media to tell you

anyhow
the press club is on
more lies for the gullable
yet i will watch it..to see what were lying about today
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 12:47:54 PM
Find out more about this user Visit this user's webpage Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. Page 4
  6. 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. ...
  10. 13
  11. 14
  12. 15
  13. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy