*I think Yabby is talking on a global level*

Ah, at last a poster who is thinking! The rest seem to live in
their own little limited world. Of course I am talking globally,
there is actually heaps of published stuff on this, I just can't be
fagged to dig it all out. I'm just surprised that so many of you
are so poorly informed.

In China the groom has to actually pay the brides family a bride
price and the family get a big say, when the offers come in.
In India marriages are generally pre arranged, the bride hardly
knows the groom. In Africa the groom pays lobola or x cows to
"purchase" the wife.

But even in the West, plenty of girls seek a rich husband. A survey
was once done regarding newspaper adverts. Husbands of " adequate
means" were commonly sought, wheras men focussed on looks.

But this stuff is in fact the very basis of evolution theory and
nothing has changed. Females need resources to raise the offspring,
so they find a partner. Men OTOH hope to get a bit of regular sex,
or they might as well just be friends.

Diamonds did not become a girls best friend for no reason, there
are sound evolutionary reasons for it. Buy your girl a nice necklace
and I'll bet you get laid that night.

Yabby
Yes of course and how absurd is the intellectual method of the western feminists who react to any discussion of sex by transposing the positions of the sexes. It only makes them look like complete idiots as you explain the basics of biology to them.

It appears that the average answer to avoiding a pregnancy is to have a costly medical abortion. which endangers the health of the mother.

There are measures to be taken to avoid a pregnancy in the first place that some here have suggested, but that the familiar answer is abortion is a sad reflection to the attitude to healthy human life.

The Chinese performd enforced abortion of mothers having more than one child. This made young women more responsible for making sure the child they had was planned and wanted.

In countries where there is poverty the need for a man to look after you is part of survival. Women in heavily patriarchial societies are not legally able or culturally able to access work that might enable them to provide an income or security for themselves. That is just the way it is. Nothing to do with biology only cultural practice.

Some of you men want it all your way. Give women access to education and jobs once only held by men and we are now at risk of being labelled feminazis. Don't allow access and we are money-grubbing mindless opportunists.

I am glad I don't live the world some of you inhabit.

*In countries where there is poverty the need for a man to look after you is part of survival*

Once again Pelican, you take this personally and see it through your
limited worldview, rather then look at the facts.

If this was only where there was poverty, attractive women would
be going for the unemployed. Surveys have been done all all this.
Ask the dating agencies why high status and rich men are snapped
up and unemployed ones are not.

Just because you don't carry the compulsive shopping gene, does not
mean that millions of other women do not.

Money and sex are the two most argued about topics in marriage.
He wants more sex and she wants more money. That is the big
picture out there, but Pelican will of course take it personally,
as if any of us have called her that.

Not so. That does not mean that these things should not be
discussed.

Unique, if you earn 70-100K$ a year, take out tax and you are not
rich, simply middle class.

"you" Yabby, refer to "me" as if I were describing myself when noting 'facts' regarding incomes of the female gender. My income falls below $71K for the record and do not label myself or any other person.

BTW - one of my philosophies in life is that no-one is 'rich' other than in spirit Yabby.

Nevertheless, the point I made is relevant to your previous comments
most women are earning excellent incomes and do not have time nor the inclination to be chasing blokes for security or marriage in order to gain their assets. Within most cities at any rate.

When you are not behaving archaically or chauvanistically I learn a great deal from you Yabby.