Gee, it's sounding like all you guys should move to China or Japan, where you won't have all those nasty feminist women chasing you to force you to have unprotected sex in order to fall pregnant and then chase you for the money!

Apparently it is very expensive to live in Japan though, and there are far more earthquakes and tsunamis, and women are a bit light on in numbers in China, but do go ahead and try anyway :)

This rubbish about most Australian women seeking only money (and pregnancy?) from a relationship is a mute point nowadays anyway.
As in my own marriage, and in that of many others, the woman makes more money than the man does in any case.

And what about all the men who chase rich women? I would suggest it is at least on a par with the women who may be shallow enough to look for money before love in a relationship.

*And what about all the men who chase rich women?*

Err which rich women Suze? Oh you mean those ones whose husbands
died, or they got millions from the divorce? Yes indeed, they are
free to hire a toyboy.

Suze, you make the some mistake as Pelican, judging the world by
the limited perspective of you and your friends. The world is a bigger
place then that and even in Australia, many women seek a male who can
provide the resources to feed the offspring. But only so many are
good looking enough to be fussy with their choice, the rest have to
take what they can get. There are plenty of women in their mid thirties
who can't find anyone, with the biological clock ticking.

Fact is that if William was an out of work bricklayer, the girls
would likely not be flocking after him as they have been and Kate
might likely not be in his bed. With her looks, she could be choosy.

As to condoms, luckily most women don't share your condom fetish
and luckily for men, there is plenty of female competition and none
of you own the vaginal patent :)

Steven et al,

You might find this interesting.

Japan: Treatment of single mothers and discrimination of women who have children out of wedlock.
http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/topic,4565c22544,4565c25f545,3ae6ad6484,0.html

Chinese men (a generality) are great users of aphrodisiacs. The most sought ones are rhino horn and tiger penis. In a country with a population problem, aprodisiacs are the last thing they need. However, this does suggest that male sexual satisfaction is a premium, and possibly unfettered sex is considered acceptable. What about women ...?

As with many societies, it appears that responsible sexual activity is dependent upon women. This rather belies the communist manifesto of sexual equality.

Regarding the appalling attitude to other species, especially those endangered, surely someone could "find" a comparable aphrodisiac in mice claws or locust feelers - albeit only the 'mightiest' would be suitable ... Perhaps a safe product from atomic waste could be developed.

Some years ago an anthropolgist predicted that with the 'one child policy' in China, social unrest would be inevitable, due to too many young males and not enough females. As we know, abortion of female embryos is not uncommon.

Yabby <"As to condoms, luckily most women don't share your condom fetish and luckily for men, there is plenty of female competition and none of you own the vaginal patent :)"

Oh, I beg to differ there Yabby... the legal ability to say 'no!' to any man wishing to access the 'vaginal patent' gives women 100% ownership!

Do you know all women then Yabby? How on earth would you know 'most' women won't insist on casual partners or new partners wearing condoms?
If you do know, you must be a very busy boy indeed :)

Condoms are essential if you don't want possible STD's from a new partner. I would suggest 'most' women would prefer the use of a condom unless they feel very sure of where the man has been in the previous six months.

You may not use condoms, but how can you speak for all other men?
I am sure any really smart man will use a condom if he wants to make sure (98%) he doesn't impregnate his partner if he definitely doesn't want a baby, or an STD for that matter.

As far as I am concerned (and the Centrelink system agrees of course), if you want to have unprotected sex with a woman, and a baby results from that sex, then you ARE accountable...whether you like that fact or not!

Have you thought much about that single-mother-free utopia China as a new abode for you yet? :)

*the legal ability to say 'no!' to any man wishing to access the 'vaginal patent' gives women 100% ownership!*

Ah Suze, but it does not give any single woman ownership and there
is a bit of competition in the marketplace. The sensible male
approach is that if 9 say no, never mind, number 10 or 11 will do.
Its purely a numbers game really.

As to condom use, there are quite a few statistics which have been
published about how commonly they are used. Not that commonly
actually, for they tend to spoil good sex, so people avoid them
if they can help it.

Most women are on the pill or have had a knot put in the line,
if they have had enough kids.

At my age, women are generally past trying to get pregnant,
as they head for the change of life. Some are grateful to get
any attention at all :)

Yabby <"The sensible male approach is that if 9 say no, never mind, number 10 or 11 will do.Its purely a numbers game really."

Ok Yabby, this is my last word on the subject because we seem to have gotten bogged down (with plastic!) with the condom issue, when the real issue is why there are so few unmarried mothers in China!

I have no problem with this very persistent male having unprotected sex with the 10th or 11th woman he asks, as long as he is happy to take the consequences of a pregnancy because of his actions.

Thank goodness I am (almost)too long in the tooth to worry about unplanned pregnancies as well.

Lol, and good night :)