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The Forum > General Discussion > Why are there so few unmarried mothers in China?

Why are there so few unmarried mothers in China?

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Yabby: I suggest you 'zoom' through most public service departmental websites and take note of all the women earning $100,000 as the minimum salary, most of whom are working in senior roles with the thousands of women career climbing right behind them. Take a peek in the employment section of any newspaper today and the minimum salary for any public service position is around $55,000+, with millions of these positions filled by women earning between $71K-$200K+ pa.

WA, with the exception of DPIE, may only employ a handful of female public servants as opposed to most other states.
Posted by weareunique, Monday, 2 May 2011 12:10:49 AM
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Suze

I admire your persistence but facts are not Yabby's strong suit he lives in some kind of time warp out there in the WA wastelands, somewhere between the middle '50's and early 60's when women did not have equal pay and were expected to quit their jobs when they married. Yabby probably thinks that the TV series "Mad Men" is a doco.

Is prostitution legal in WA? In Victoria it is, and condoms are mandatory along with monthly health check of the sex-worker (shame the same cannot be said for the clients - but at least they are required to wear condoms) and business is doing well apparently - I haven't heard of brothels closing for lack of customers.

Among the interesting facts Yabby deliberately misses is that you Suze are a professional working woman, as I would posit that most women who write here are also paid employees. I don't suppose the news has reached his part of WA that the PM and the GG are both female - probably not for long, however things have changed quite a bit since the 50's.

On, topic, one of the reasons I imagine that there are fewer unmarried mothers in China has more to do with a rigidly controlled society - particularly the poorer people. Remember how many women are forced to have abortions if they exceeded the limit or they were found to be pregnant with a female baby?
Posted by Ammonite, Monday, 2 May 2011 8:48:05 AM
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i have avoided excess comment on the topic
but feel yabby is only trying to take a poke[taking the mickey]

i have never tried the numbers game
but 9 out of 10 sounds like many do

i have also heard of those going after
so called fatties..oldies...uglies and even deadies
im more for qualities..but that ups the number ratio a bit

in the end some like to own just one good car
others collect dinkies or photo's of cars
but as i recall that wernt the topic

why are so few unmarried mothers
look at the numbers..[ratio of man/woman]
woman can afford to be more picky..can chose quality

its as simple as that
how we got onto gladwraped condiments who knows
thing is its a numbers game..so yabby was right..
but got it wrong way about

so what scewed the numbers arround
too many 'married'..woman..not being out of the 'game'

[clearly there aint no shortage
of short fat ugly ill temperred horny men]
either here or in china..

but woman..thats a..*lower number
meaning higher standards can be held

even so a good woman..is as hard to find..as a good man
trouble being the good..dont play 'games'
Posted by one under god, Monday, 2 May 2011 9:28:28 AM
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Suze, I think we have already come up with the answer about China.
The Spectator article made some valid points. Asians are far more
pragmatic when it comes to abortion, they also don't get to marry
the Govt with huge payments, as happens in the West.

But even in Australia we have around 80'000 abortions a year and it
remains a practical choice for any sensible woman.

Unique, if you earn 70-100K$ a year, take out tax and you are not
rich, simply middle class.

Ammonite, wow, so many ad hominems and bitterness in one single post!
You sound just like CJs mate, the one thrown out of OLO some months
ago, can't even remember her nick right now. She was from Victoria
too. Same writing style too.
Posted by Yabby, Monday, 2 May 2011 9:36:06 AM
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Yabby
I did not claim to speak for all women stating clearly 'women I am acquainted with'. However you seem quite happy to speak on behalf of all women based on your perceptions. My friends and I are also women.

Your perceptions are no less valid than any other observation however what basis do you use it to make widesweeping generalisations.
Posted by pelican, Monday, 2 May 2011 9:39:16 AM
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I think Yabby is talking on a global level. It is almost undeniable that when poverty is a factor, and men have more access to resources, marriage and prostitution are seen as a greater source of security for women, relegating our western romanticised version to insignificance.

Do the numbers man. Non-western countries have much more people.

As to condoms, well, I don't really remember losing my virginity, I only remember the first time without a condom. No doubt if women's sexual enjoyment was so hindered by a form of contraception it would be bandied about by feminists as a violation of women's human rights.

There are infinite other activities in sex preferable to penetration with a condom.
Posted by Houellebecq, Monday, 2 May 2011 9:50:55 AM
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