with this influx
as much as thee./.with the most

the influx is within all living 'being'

get to know
the good within you
the good in others..is the self same good

war is over if you want it..
was the fruit of war
ever that good

or ever more fully..understood?

stand down soul-dier
lets us die no more in war
after all what were we really ever fighting for?

lets give those truelly LIVING..even now
both in heaven and hell..

the peace they..''died'..as we all tried hard ...it to bring
but couldnt get it through..to all of us at once..even to you

recall the inner voices
regardless if from heaven or hell

its time to stand down and tell them
let your inner good god voice be your guide
we respect the good inside us..by obeying only that good

feel the eternal internal within
how else can the thought
of loving other
get in

thats a teaching from
outside the box

Dear Poirot,

You wrote: "I don't believe it would be possible to use rational thought and "programming" to disabuse an entire species of its instinctual competitive nature"

I don't think it is necessary or desirable "to disabuse an entire species of its instinctual competitive nature" I think we only need to de-emphasise violence in a sufficient percentage of the population, and, since humans are a herd animal, most of the rest will go along.

I think both competition and cooperation have their place and are both desirable in the appropriate circumstances. Both attitudes are instinctual. Peter Kropotkin wrote “Mutual Aid” which tells of the many acts of cooperative behaviour in nature. It is still applicable.

Dear OUG,

You quoted me as saying "capitalism is a devil." You quoted me out of context.

I wrote:

“Capitalism is a devil on which one can blame all the ills of the world. However, it is pointless to do so. Wars did not start with the advent of capitalism nor will they cease with the demise of capitalism.”

I don’t think there is any such thing as a devil or a demon. They are just products of human imagination. I don’t think capitalism is evil or a devil. It is an economic system.

had you said david
that there is no satan
we could agree..he is a product of human imagination

but my beloved brother demons are quite real
to those who believe in such things

and how else..but by some vile spirit influx
imprinting this sort perverted..ignorant..uninformed
thinking

*upon the future pope..
of the 'great' britons

"If I were reincarnated,
I would wish to be returned to earth
as a killer virus to lower the human population levels.."

-- Prince Phillip of Great Britain,
speaking to the athiestic..World Wildlife Fund

or how about these thoughts
made by one good man
to another..who would keep the flock ignorant
of the truths..such as i have previously poste

"If the truth is that ugly -- which..it is --
then we do have to be careful..about the way
that we tell the truth.

But to somehow say
that telling the truth..should be avoided
because people may respond badly..to the truth seems bizarre to me."

--Chuck Skoro, Deacon, St. Paul's Catholic Church

everything must be in context
we decieve others at our own risk

demons are real to those who think them real
their faith..gives them reality

faith is a two edged sword
in believing lies..we risk making
our own deceoptions real..if only to us

the worst ones are those that lie about god
or lie about living after aparent'death'
or waiting for a judgment day
or day of reserction

heaven is full of people stubbornly feigning death
because the swallowed the lie..of reserction day
others terrified..they will be judged

when its all according to
that we chose to do..here

and when...we get...*there
..getting more..

David f.,

I think our "herd instinct" is perhaps the biggest hurdle for man to overcome in seeking to become a "peacefully acquiring being"....and I wonder if man as he has evolved can really be expected to be other than the result of that evolution.

It's a large planet - and man has migrated to every habitable part of it. His "herds" or "tribes" are many, and each exhibits distinct social traits, refined by intelligence and rationalisation. These rationalisations, more often than not define differences as opposed similarities...and we are guided by them in our identification of friend or foe.

A world where every man is kind to his neighbouring social group is an idealisation. There is, of course, nothing inherently wrong (or new) about such an aspiration - it's a notion that's been around for eons, and it's more commonly depicted as "heaven".

those who love to do the dark things
go to the dark places

those loving others
go to the place..of love of others
[in the light]

haters to the place of haters
murders to the place of murder

ie sortuing the sheep
from the goat

or the wheat from the tares
at the harvest[mortal death]..
instantly*

sorted by..that we loved..yearned..
chose to do..while..*in these mortal realms

war mongers
go to the place of eternal war
looters go to those loving to loot

those loving to rapeene..
to the realm..of eternal rape
raping..*only each other

looting..*only each other
lying..*only with/to..liars

decievers
only decieving those
who woul;d be decieved
want to be decieved to

its not complicated
a child can grasp it

[children of course..go to the place of children]

till 'other' loves..THEY THEM SELVES CHOSE..[in time
..sort them...into their rightfull place[realm/room]

as jesus said
''mine fathers house
has many rooms''..

[some in the light
others in dark places]

those who reject the light
*chose..to hide in the darkness

reject the love
you chose hate

reject grace

you reject mercy
well its your choice

why did jesus own
not get his mess-age

heed his cautions
heed his teachings
do as he revealed our father does

anyhow time shall reveal
to those who shall not grow old
once they get released from this prison planet

where we each
serve out
our life :..sentanence

I also think competition is desirable and even healthy in the right circumstances, preferably on a level playing field where it comes down to talent, ability and enthusiasm. The Olympics for instance is hardly about sport at all, and certainly not about sportsmanship; it's not even about patriotism, whose true form of love of country I respect. It's about which government as the most money to inject into the technology of sport in the interests of international one-up-man-ship and increasingly, profit.

Of course when we speak of competition per se and in the capitalist context, we talk of who can amass the most money, material assets and other cultural capital--competition of this kind is fundamentally materialistic and demeaning of what God-given talent (rhetorically speaking), human aspiration and spirit might be capable of in a healthy intellectual environment.
I doubt, in fact, that our species is competitive, in a vicious way, by nature. Human nature is surely moulded largely by human society, its institutions and its mores--which today are all subject to competition for wealth.