I make no sorry mate for my comments,and spoke of those who took part in past wars or lost loved ones.
No peace ever can come from one sides good wishes.
Research would tell of just how far we have come.
Our involvement in world war one was as a servant state to England.
It was as near as I can tell a family squabble, Royals have much to answer for.
Thankfully, women do not send men feather saying they are cowards any more.
Gutless act that was driven by total support, even to the point of sending men to die, for an empire we are better for the death of.
Heated? yes I have memory's still of story's told around bush camp fires of returned men being given more than one white feather in the name of Britons Royal family and an Empire that left todays world problem still alive and dieing harm.

Dear Belly,

You're still setting up straw men. Nobody has advocated onesided action. You're still arguing against what nobody has said.

However, I will say it.

Onesided action can lead to war. One side arms then the other side arms to match it. Now you're in an armament race. Sometimes they lead to war.

Onesided action can also lead to peace. One side makes a peacable move then the other side may match it. Now you're relieving tensions. That may lead to peace.

Onesided actions can lead to either peace or war. Depends on the circumstances.

While you support in part what I said think its time to leave Dave.
You seem to be using the word Anzac in a way I do not want to.
And in todays world if it was us who first lay down our weapons we would be defeated very soon after.
Not sure what direction you want the thread to take so leave you to it.
But history, including the Pearl Harbor attack,Germany's Blitz Kreeg and many more near misses can be laid at the feet of not being prepared.
Good luck with the thread.

'One under god' said that "to kill is a mortal sin".

Always?

mortal sin".........what religion understands that now days.

LEAP

death is only of concern to the matters of the flesh
spirit is eternal..it cant die

its a mortal sin because this mortal egsistance directly determines our next reality...our next eternal life

to kill kids..who havnt yet had a chance
to chose to reject lifes [mortal] sins...is a true crime

in time we all realise killing anything is wrong
even to kill a beast to 'live'

we have mans[mortal mans rules]
that state thou shalt not kill
[spirit isnt bound to those rules as spirit in eternal
ya cant 'kill' any life in the next life]

thats sort of the pain of those chosing hell
you can go through the whole pain and agony
of death and dying..but not be 'dead'

in affect those who love killing
can be 'killed' again and again
for eternity..

[or as long as they chose to love killing]
but able.to 'kill'..molest mutilate..rape
only those who love the same vile

in time even the most pervers realises
they dont really lust after their 'per-versiions]
as much as they believed..

its all rather self correcting
thus there is no need to judge