Pelican, advice such as yours is the very reason why many small employers no longer employ. It's all just to hard.

T2>>.Now we work Sundays with similar conditions.

Car yards are not allowed to trade Sundays in QLD, so can't help you.

>>I have no choice but to accept the payslip weekly in which the detail regarding the hours I have worked is falsified.

My mate pays a fixed salary, about $600 net, plus super. Then he pays a com on any cars sold.

His guy generally nets about $1500 per week. Not a bad earn for zero risk hey! Unless you consideryour time as a risk.

May I suggest that you are either unhappy with a wage plus com, or, you are simply unable to sell cars which makes you feel you are underpaid.

Best option is to move on!

Now as for this change of the law, it was built in to the new FWA legislation

I guess we have to disagree on this Rehctub, but you would have to admit the my example does illustrate, that no one is policing rights in the workplace, because the practices I have described are even illegal now, built upon some fundamental quality of life issues such as the 38 hr week.

These fundamentals are still the right of any working person, because we are all entitled to a life Rehctub. Things you feel entitled too as a business person, are not your entitlements to feel in the first place.

And regarding the over all effect of a fair renumeration and conditions system, it is increased productivity and loyalty, that is the reward for the employer, not the satisfaction of being the one who gets to stay home with his family on a Sunday, whilst those he employs continues too toil.

The centralised arbitration system was dismantled by the Howard Govt along with rights to strike and/or collectively bargain. This system was replaced with a system of compulsory individual contracts, in which workers were expected to trade of benefits, wage and job security for minuscule increases in hourly rates.

Living standards are guaranteed to deteriorate, as this self regulated system continues.

As is the case with the regulatory body dealing with the communications industry, they are now fed up with the disgraceful treatment of customers by privatised suppliers of phone and internet services. The public have been sold a crock in privatisation, and now the industry regulator is advocating the restoration of stringent regulations in this industry.

So too are workers fed up with the uncertainty of their future coupled with rising fuel energy/prices. Living standards decrease as we speak Rehctub.

Before the Howard years Rehctub your first social responsibility was to the maintenance people who work for you, not your creditors, as would have been the case if you became insolvent. Now the employees get to pick over the bones after the creditors have recovered their losses. The new idea is that "the few should have precedence over the many".
I am not comfortable with this notion Rehctub.

T2, as you seem reluctant to answer a few simple questions, please answer these.

When you entered your job, were you aware that you would receive a 'minimum wage' plus commission on the cars you sold?

You say you have been under paid by some $3,900. $9 per week, 48 weeks per year, 9 years.
Assuming your commission per car averaged $100, you would have only had to sell 39 cars in your entire nine years, that's 4.3 cars PER YEAR, or one car every 84 days.
So,during your nine years, has the 'collective' commission you have earned made up for the $9 per week you claim to have been under paid?

Now I would suggest that if you only managed to sell one car every 84 days, then you have been a dismal failure at your job and that in fact, you have been a drain on your boss.

I would further suggest that if you were such a poor salesman, then your boss would have welcomed your resignation, at any time, with open arms, as you were in fact occupying a position that many good salesman would have begged for.

I would further suggest that if you do move on, then please don't take a role that relies on your ability to sell in order for you to earn a decent income as it would appear you are simply not cut out for this.

I am still mystified as to why you continued down this path for nine years, knowing full well you were not succeeding.

Now had you a good salesman, you would have been regarded as 'an assett' and you would have either been paid a S-load, or you would have been poached from another dealer.

Finally, you forget that employers are workers as well. Only thing is, they rely on you doing your job well in order for them to get a return on their investment and provide them with a decent standard of living.

Unfair dismissal changed many things and protected many workers who prior to would have been sacked at a hear beat.

Sorry Rehctub but you have my job and my wifes job mixed up in your haste to personally deride and insult me.

My job involves 20 hrs a week in unpaid working hrs at the pitiful award rate of $14.50 hr, my pay falls short of my award payments at a rate of $290 a week over 28 yrs in the business. This amounts to a gross accumulated underpayment of $422,240.00, without consideration of the losses in super along the way. All of which I was legally entitled to receive, regardless of whether I was good or not good at the job.

If I may offer an analogy. If employers in general at the end of a working week went to their workers and said,Oh by the way, I know you have worked 40 hrs but I am only going to pay you for 25, the streets would be full of protesters demanding the heads of their employers.

Maybe this analogy helps even someone with limits in cognisance such as yourself understand the basics we are talking about here.

Yes well, not sure what happened there, please axcept my appologies.

Absolutely Rehctub, and thanks for your acknowledgement.

I must say, that in a workplace, my primary prerequisite to happiness, is being part of a team, fitting in, working in ethical environments, where customers and employee's are treated with similar respect, are the most satisfying of workplaces. Non-communicative and confrontational management styles are counter-productive if your looking at it from the managed side.

In a truly progressive environment Rehctub, I would wish that it would be understood better "that all people come with a skill set". If we could harness the best skills in the people in our organisations instead of making them do the things we perceive they should be doing,(a little less I mean), we would find out more about the people we employ , get to know them better.

Because everyone want's to genuinely contribute to something they all believe in.

Excuse me for preaching a little on this Rehctub, but I do value and enjoy discussion with you

cheers T2