T2, you can thank labor for your inability to fight for your rights as it was they who invented fair work Aust, with one of the changes being (something like) you have no representation as an individual, so you must take legal action yourself. So much for nobody being worse off.

Now without knowing what it is you do it is impossible to help.

I also note you have no answered my question about smoking.

A few more points of interest.

Have you used the work Internet to send/receive personal emails?

.... surf the net?

Now if you have, was this part of your entitlements.

Now if you have, and it was not, then was your use worth $9 per week?

Remembering that the word 'use' also includes your paid time.

Your employer
Many people today are quick to point out that they are doing it tough, and they are, myself included.

So, do you think your boss has done it tough during the past few years?

Has he/she sold assets, or borrowed more against them to secure financing for the business? Which, by the way has secured jobs.

Most small businesses are doing it very tough, with the exception of those who outsource their labor to OS countries.

I have a mate who works for a firm that pays a wage, plus bonuses. They are not making the profits and the bonuses are not flowing.

Funny thing is, he wasn't complaining when business was booming.

At the end of the day you appear to lack confidence in your own ability, otherwise you would simply attack this issue without fear of loosing your job.

At worst, a good boss would realise their error and come to an arrangement to repay what they owe you.

On the other hand, if you have taken smoke breaks and or used the Internet during work time, then perhaps you should say to yourself, fair enough!

Now Rechtub in a lot of your threads more of your posts your failure to understand is highlighted.
I had gathered thinker 2 was 1 employed by a bad threatening boss
2 WAS NOT A UNIONIST.
Now every day,yes every one, I met victims like this.
One of ten thousand cases,
A father, not a unionist put his hand on my shoulder can we talk after the game?
Never knew him it was NRL said ok bloke, not wearing my dragons shirt union one.
This followed his son,not yet 16 was working in a fencing firm.
Under paid over worked and being abused,yes hands on abuse.
Dad wanted his son to have a job, but wanted something done.
I inspected that shop union thuggery at its worst.
Made it look like a blow in thing ,only me to blame.
4 kids told of being bashed even painted at work, by the boss and his Hench men.
No one joined the union , no one was sacked and the very grubby boss did not go to court.
He bought uniforms and boots gave an undertaking he would never let it happen, thugs yes mate you go off don't you.
If your boss is ok thinker 2 ALWAYS START THERE,if working for Rechtub NEVER let him know act behind his back always.
Any boss I ever met who said my door is always open had no Friends in his workers.
PS Dad was a Knight fan my dragons won fees paid in full.

Belly, my current boss is a nice bloke but the industry and its entrenched sanctified by the industry body contracts are unfair and weighted against an employee's rights.

The key to this is that there has never been union representatation in the workplace in this industry. We operate on individual contracts that allow for 16 unpaid work hours each and ever week.

No Govt will fix this inc the current Fair Work people, but it was Howard that destroyed peoples rights in the Workplace. The current Govt has not done enough to reverse the damage. So now most people are on unfairly weighted open ended individual contracts and unions are for all intensive purposes powerless to act or assist.

Trying to pretend that this has something to do with Labor is just plain dishonest Rehctub ,an attempt to mislead, that is what that is.

Howards body told me that it was all illegal and I had the right to take each one of my employers to court at a rate of $33000 a case per claim cost to myself. I felt so priviledged when I was told this.(sarcasm)

The balance has been destroyed and the consensus of productivity, between workers and employers is a distant memory of the Hawke/Keating Era.

Suspicion and conflict now exists between the parties and as evidenced by the current Patrick's situation, we don't seem to have made a lot of progress. The unions are currently pointing at Patrick's safety record and stalling tactics , whilst Patrick's point at their bottom line. What's next a new round of attack dogs ?.

Workers have no safety net of increases in wages commensurate with the rate of inflation to compensate for the increasing cost of living set in their Awards anymore. These types of of mutual understandings are a simplistic, but effective way of keeping business people honest, for mine. And they preserve living standards for most people.

So much for the lawless environment we experience industrially and as consumers. So little accountability from Gov't will continue the whittling away of living standards, for most people as each day passes. And you reckon your doing it tough Rehctub.

T2, are you working on the walf?

I can't continue on this unless I know what you do.

Now, as for the relationship between workers and employers, well most of that damage was caused by keating, with his introduction of unfair dismissal. I still say today that these laws caused irreparable damage and cost a lot of jobs.

Howard watered down these laws and there is a definite link between the 'boom times' and this watering down, as what it did was installed confidence for bosses.

Now labor, once elected took a big stick to bosses and reintroduced these laws, at a time where we were already under pressure from the GFC. At our hour of need, they made employing harder. Go figure!

Now while I accept that workchoices was unfair to some, I don't believe that anyone who was good at their job was effected as if they were they would simply move on as there were plenty of options out there at the time.

Cont.

T2.You say>>Trying to pretend that this has something to do with Labor is just plain dishonest Rehctub

It was labor who brought in fair work aust, so it is they who are to blame for these changes. Like it or not. I remember a thread where I warned of this at the time.

They took away the right for individuals to object and made it such that they had to take legal action instead.

Belly would know more on this.

You say its tough.
Now just consider this. Workers have had several pay increases in the past four years, yet many small employers have either gone belly up, or, like myself have borrowed to keep the business afloat.

Now of cause people say, why not get out. Boy if it was that easy.

We have leases, loans etc, that in most cases tie your house up, so we can't just get out.

Many bosses today work for less than their staff, but they are trapped.

Do you think that is fair, that workers get pay increases, just because its tough, while bosses at best work for much less, or at worst loose their homes?

Tourism, small retail and hospitality are all facing ruin as their days are numbered. Expenses are simply out of control.

We even get charged each time you wash your hands or flush the toilet.

I said to a mate the other day that we are possibly the last generation of small business people.

I say this as most of the next generation either don't own a house for security, or, they won't put up with the hassle.

My lease runs out in less than 18 months and unless I get some serious incentive from the LL, that will be the end for me.

I will retire into a cushy job on $85 to $100K without the hassle.

I am afraid to say this, but it's all coming to an end, and you can quote me on that.