Belly,
It pains me to have to resort to this but what else can one write to try & make you see your own hypocrisy ? I'm not writing this as a contest ? I see an urgent need to make people see reality & not lose track of it all the time. You accuse me of using defamatory words but, as I said tell us what's defamatory about stating a fact ? I didn't make up the stories about these Labor Politicians ? They did these things!
I just want to remind you that you're pretty good at dishing out but you're a poor receiver.
If you don't like criticism then don't challenge the integrity of people who care. I care what's happening to us at the hands of the lawyers' club calling itself Labor.

Belly,

You are the last one able to complain of flaming. Your posts have almost without exception attacked me personally, whilst I have deliberately avoided direct personal attacks.

I haven't tried to have anyone's posts removed as in most cases the inarticulate attacks do more for my case than theirs, and frankly I neither seek nor desire their approval.

What I have mentioned is reflected in other commentary, and probably privately amongst many others, and the conclusions I reach are not any stretch of the imagination.

This thread, the infamous statements, the thought that some get more freedom to post threads like this for BALANCE?
Must be addressed, no joy here Indy, I truly think you are so very uninformed and biased nothing you say is of value.
Not not a debating tool, just a firm belief you know no better.
LABOR has muffed it up, got a great deal wrong, but SHINES in compassion to Abbott.
Gillard is a neon light in the darkest out back,showing clearly a gutlessness in my party, she is not going to turn her polling around, can not win or hide her past.
We in fact have ten better leaders WHO LACK THE GUTS TO GET HER OUT.
But Indy you must know, you have no idea none to say as your mate SOG did EVERY LABOR VOTER BETRAYS THIS COUNTRY bigotry, blind stupidity.
How could any one respect you two,value your thoughts .
Now I charge Shadow Minister using his own words,, in his second post with FLAMING.
Balance? fairness? equity, not seen in post title after post title.
I have in mind a thread title, >are some conservatives bigots,> but no not me not that low the answer is yes very much so.
And some are pedophiles sex deviates some are criminals some are great people, headlines are currently full of my party's sins.
Those who sin are grubs but not Representative of us all.
EVERY party has filth in it.
In a thread about Abbott SM defended him flying around the country at our expense selling his book then hurls insults at Gillard for? doing the same?
Bigotry is blind support for bigotry based on fellow travelers doing it is as bad as the grubby act its self.
Individual knows no better SOG too but SM you understand and deliberately FLAME, poor sport mate .

Belly,
balance & fairness ? Today's Lawyer-Labor is incompetent. Nothing balanced or fair about that. And the other sad fact ? You're part of that.

The title is insulting and the resultant posts a flame war.

Reprehensible all.

What Ammonite said. The OP is deliberately designed to start a flame war. Very poor show indeed.