We shadow minister spoke about that cartoon about engineers, you reminded me it had been around for a long time.
I concede the point,it however has relevance here.
You start a thread, once again that has an infamous title and intent.
Then confronted by me and others you change the subject, twist and turn but change totally.
Sir IF you are in fact the owner of such a title you very much prove that cartoons intent.
Engineers hold skills that are not used in people management or project management, they lack totally almost every time,the skills needed for the job they hold.
YESTERDAY one of south east Asia's and Australia's biggest construction company's,you may well work for them rang me.
The head of IR wanted to convey the best wishes of the project manager of this areas biggest new project.
He is no fan of unions, but has time and again seen me go fiercely head to head at mass meetings with the CFMEU,a union dragging the whole movement down.
I may have fought them and such as them as much as bad bosses they force membership bribes are requested and lie to members use safety as a tool.
Their ex members make up the best delegates I gained and remain My lifetime Friends,can you say that about those you work with?
Yet mate just maybe I respect them more than I do you, yet that is true of almost any one.
Review your post title,tell me you have any class any at all.
It is my privilege to stand against such as you till death, if my IQ is not better than those two posts I should be ashamed.
OUG? what has that got to do with hate posts like this?

Shadow Minister

Someone trashed my letterbox recently, must've been the Labor Party.

How do your discussions get approval?

If the rants by Shadow Minister are permitted to provide 'balance' - WTF are we balancing?

Deep breaths, everybody!

I am on Twitter as 'ForrestGumpp'. I don't 'tweet' much. I don't have many 'followers'. Nor do I 'follow' many others, as my primary interest in Twitter has always been its usefulness as an alternative channel of communication whereby I can advise OLO of any problems I find the site may be experiencing. I do, however, follow 'Vexnews', because, for whatever reason, Vexnews once first followed me.

Vexnews tweeted this sometime on 21 April: http://twitter.com/#!/vexnews/status/60838799197995009 . The link the tweet contained was to the Wiki entry for Bernard Finnegan, the last line of which said he had resigned.




News or innuendo, I wondered?




The following paragraph appeared in a 22 April online news item by Phillip Coorey:

"Mr Rann cut short a trip to Melbourne
to return to Adelaide yesterday, where
he announced that Bernard Finnigan, the
acting police minister, had resigned.
The reasons for his resignation cannot
be published for legal reasons. He resigned
from the cabinet and executive council."

See: http://www.smh.com.au/national/resignation-fuels-fears-of-nsw-repeat-for-sa-labor-20110421-1dqmm.html

From a 21 April online news item from The Age, we learn that Bernard Finnegan was elected to the SA upper house in 2006, and, seemingly, remains government leader in that House. See: http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-national/sa-premier-announces-minister-has-resigned-20110421-1dpp4.html . We learn from this item that, apart from being Acting Police Minister at the time of his resignation, Bernard Finnegan also held the three Ministerial portfolios of Industrial Relations, State-local government Relations, and Gambling.

This link gives some background as to why the MP arrested cannot be named: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/why-the-mp-charged-with-alleged-child-pornography-offences-cannot-be-named/story-e6frea83-1226042738877

This online news item, by unidentified 'Staff reporters' of The Australian, appeared yesterday 21 April 2011: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/sa-premier-mike-rann-shocked-at-mps-child-porn-arrest/story-e6frg6nf-1226042909975 . It included this paragraph:

"The Premier returned to Adelaide early
today following the charging of the MP
last night for alleged possession of child
pornography after police raided his home
and seized two computers."

How to join up all these dots correctly? Can I suggest there may be value in looking beyond the immediate presumption of guilt so seemingly already apparent?

What are the real labor values?

The values of the French revolution were freedom, equality and brotherhood, just before they started lopping off the heads of everyone that disagreed with them.

Juliar says one thing and does quite the opposite when convenient, and it appears to the man on the ground that the only values that the Labor party hold dear is to hold onto power and enjoy the privileges as a right.

Bernard Finnegan would appear to be the guilty party, and surprise surprise is an ex union official.

Belly,

ALP members have been found guilty of all the issues in my title recently, while all walks of life have these criminals, the ALP seems to have far in excess of their fair share, so the title is perfectly appropriate. Your response is like toy teeth, I wind you up and off you go with another burbling rant.

Child porn and paedophilia are sick, and the individuals in the ALP who embrace such things are sick. What is equally sick, though, is that you (Shadow Minister) do not indicate any concern or compassion for the victims of these crimes; nor do you seem particularly concerned that they have surfaced. Instead, you delight in having another opportunity to bash the ALP - to use the misfortune of vulnerable children as an opportunity to score points in your political battle. I'm sure you are as disgusted as the bulk of the population when it comes to child porn and paedophilia, but your political stance seems to desensitise you. You don't seem to see the crime - instead, you see the opportunity. I hope I'm wrong, but I can only go on what your posts suggest about you.

Forrest Gumph I regard you as one of our very best posters, just on balance and content.
I do not tweet, too slow on printing out the words.
But have come to the same conclusion.
I do not question the police but do ask why such a law only in SA.
No defense, my party, like every group in life, has some products of unwed parents.
I have never tried to hide my view that is true.
BUT even at our current all time low, in polls and fact, we have 31% of the vote.
This thread inferred we the 31% are lessor Australians.
Balance? wind me up? SM I has been my lifetimes work to stand for fairness
It is possible to find plenty wrong in any party.
At present mine is putting the ammunition in SM hands.
But tell me this, my balance and fairness is being questioned by both the very right and very left, yet who of them took such a firm stand against the party they support? unconditionaly in most cases, as to publicly refuse to vote for as I did my party.
To revel in the total defeat I had promised for two years, of that party.
It is my view, considered opinion Labor is the best of two very much substandard party's today.
If Shadow minister is putting such thread title here for balance we are all worse for it.
Truth has value, in truth SHADOW MINISTER I doubt you should be able to post such titles as this and further doubt fairness and balance is some thing you care about.
Your post, yet again having flamed me, and ALP voters seeks to put the blame on me!
I highlight for nonconservative voters this, we must both hold Labor to account tell them what we think even in private letters.
But we must never get so low we use tactics like this thread naughty boys throw stones debate needs to be honest, open and fair, a bridge too far for some.