You use this line often Shadow Minister.
It falls flat on its face every time, only in your head is the thread about my understanding of politics.
Yet again you see a form of mental illness in my posts.
And want the world to think that is what drives me to complain about my party.
You mate,use more and harsher insults more often, than some who clearly do have a mental health issue.
It says far more about you than me.
I see signs of child like need to hurt me,you fail, and evidence you understand how unbalanced your comments are.
We joked about engineers,but you add to the understanding most have, looking for common sense is a waste of time from many of them.
I Sir truly,honestly wish you well, living in your head must be uncomfortable for you and those who have no choice but to put up with you.
Remember your maths training, to both over estimate you ability's and under estimate your opponents is to out number your self

Belly,

Please try reading your posts before sending them. I can almost see the spittle on them. For incoherence you are challenging UOG.

I came here early this morning.
Over night I questioned my reason for using OLO.
It had not been a good night, infected feet.
As I often do I asked myself to review why I get into conflict with such as Shadow Minister.
Heated? slobbering? no quite calm SM see, hidden but not deeply in your last few posts is some thing very clear.
You are lashing out.
While retreating you slander me.
Your printed words show,clearly,you feel you lost the debate.
Need to take the focus from your silliness and put it on me.
You fail, I have doubts you hold the credits to your name you claim.
I can see no reasoning in you no balance no understanding, I place no value on your taunts, question just why you have so very much rope to flame and slander.
Above all my next post here questions the damage one sided slander and support that never finds fault with your own belief just may forever taint my country politics.
Throw your mud but know this, your out pourings are often as lost as those of any who ever posted here.

This thread raises for me questions.
Every Australian voter has a right to his/her opinion.
And to in my view be less than pleased with our current federal government, my party.
The promise of Kevin 07 turned to mud.
The hope turned to stones in our belly's.
I know almost for sure without change my party can not win the election.
But some here, who never find fault with their party,say I do not believe what I post?
Or do so to cover up,,for my party's faults?
Labor /greens/conservatives all claim this of me.
What future for our country's politics.
Do we then say one side is always wrong the other right.
Only look at Labors faults not Conservatives.
Read an editorial in this morning Sydney Telegraph know you are reading a LIBERAL PROPAGANDA paper.
Yet it has spoken of a machine within the Liberal machine that is toxic.
In NSW not not yet I still breath easier for my party's loss, still think Barry should be given his chance but like Canberra we will be electing the unknown and we will pay.
My country has too many Shadow Ministers.
Too many who look only at my sides faults and for ever hide their own
We can do far better than that.
Do not hide in the greens,Conservatives prosper as the greens grow but demand better from Labor.
Know we here see daily Tony Abbott's only scripted policy, the only one he believes in constant fear mongering and slander Do you write his scripts SM?

Belly,

I would suggest you look up the definition of the terms libel, slander and defamation. Once you do, you will find that nothing I have posted falls under any of these definitions. As to do so would mean that what I have posted is either false, and a direct accusation.

However, in directly accusing me of defamation and slander, you are guilty of exactly what you accuse me of.

That the government under Juliar has deliberately misled the electorate, happily junked the solemn promises it made only a few months previously, squandered the greatest revenue stream in the history of the country, and stuffed up the implementation of every major policy it has implemented is the reason that nobody trusts the ALP any more and would rather listen to Abbott.

TA has skilfully out manoeuvred Juliar at every opportunity, and is now presenting the electorate with a viable alternative.

Similarly, the state labor governments are in equal strife, and the Brand ALP is now tied in the electorate's mind to incompetence, promoting its own interests over that of the electorate, and dishonesty.

i will address both your parties here

unless you divide..BOTH your own houses
giving people..a real left/right direction choice!
you both not going to rule

independants will soon also fail
stooges for one or the other same right wing party elite's

i would like a real choice
between a left direction alp/lib
or a right wing alp/lib

the pox is on both your parties
the excess of alp..is only exceeded
by the excess of the liberals..nerither deserve power
both will do the same hurt..look how howard raped the poor..

now alp doing the same..
both serve big business
yet its the unrepresented swill..who give you the power
if govt dont serve the people..the people will eventually stop paying tax

think about it

the first party to give us a choice
gives us a voice..well they are ahead of the game

we know tony will be bad
we know juliar is bad

so its best alp change..
sooner rather than later

if not then the upcomming..global melt/down
soon sorts both of you

stop bailing out the rick
PS watch the future

sbs..last nights cutting edge
about how big gas does its thing

recalling alp qld
is letting 80,000 of these things be built
and using our 'infastructure levy''on electric power
to pay for the pipeline that delivers it to gladstone
so the allready rich..can get 60 billion in gas sales

while the poor sit in the dark..
not able to afford even turning on a light

cause govt gave OUR money
to the elite..wanting a pipeline to china

the same elites..who put solar cells..
on their* roofs..for near nothing

and built a pipeline..
to pump our money..[gas].....
via industrialists..elites

..selling our gas..to china