...The following quote may help the atheists in this thread who argue the separation of Church and State is far from complete, to marry their “idea to the truth”.

Quote…Religion! How it dominates man’s mind, how it humiliates and degrades his soul. God is everything, man is nothing, says religion. But out of that nothing God has created a kingdom so despotic, so tyrannical, so cruel, so terribly exacting that naught but gloom and tears and blood have ruled the world since gods began.
—Emma Goldman, 1910

...Goldmans sentiment is not an ideal I support. More am I disposed to Jeffersons declaration of 1779 on separation of church and state, implying a two way street:

…Jefferson wrote, "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion,… or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” …thus building a wall of separation between Church & State".

...The problem still remains doesn’t it, the power struggle over the wall of separation of Church and State will be one of continuum…

“The vital factor is suitability for parenting, the ability to give love and care to the children in care. That requirement can be fulfilled by all manner of people.”

Yep umm… nup. You’re right but… I have a headache.

Yes when it comes right down to the core of the business it is absolutely the moments in which a child lives and who is caring for them. But they excluded gay couples (I’ve not yet worked out if “gay” and lesbian are considered the same thing) and got away with it so next on the list might be non-church attendees, unmarried people, the divorced and on it goes until they are an exclusive org.

Back at the core of the business are these little individuals from a variety of homes and situations being managed by companies who are allowed to discriminate against and support their coalition members in this discrimination against the types of homes the children may have once lived in or could go on to live in.

These things (besides the gay issue there are other things the private companies currently do which government does not) evolve and I think it should be government’s job to control the rot because those companies will continue to apply for tender (correct word?) and will push to see what they can get away with.

“Surely the premise is that the regulations or guidelines are handled uniformly across the sector, and there is good faith expectations these services will be provided in adherence with those guidelines.”

Guidelines and good faith seems an okay way to hire the girl down the street to babysit for a few hours but for this I’d suggest concrete adherence to strict rules and regulations and no ability handed to any sub-contractor to make it up as they go along.

Aw Dan, gay peoples and atheists pay taxes too and I believe we need that wall.

The churches are well none for their dishonesty ( "Best Interests of Child or Church"..........or foxing new Pay-Days for there lie,s to humanity.

I know gay people very well, and they make better or same as the one,s with heterosexualities, as a main base of their own type of mind space>

( All Thats born here, has the rights to all things )

The indoctrinated one,s are in-fact.....brainwashed to the existences of questionable cause and behaviourals, and would not be surprised at the one,s with careful mind-plannings. ( again..Jaw theme )

But isn't it funny that most of those types comes from religious families...........you be the one to judge in this kangaroo court.

Its the normal one,s that root children:) not gays.

If thats not true, who has ever heard of a gay paedophile:)

Not me......but out of 7 billion people, and very strange at times, there's bound to be one.

Remember....Law is right all the time:) and if its wrong......CHANGE IT!

Have a nice day.

LEAP

The churches are well "known" for their dishonesty ( "Best Interests of Child or Church"..........or foxing new Pay-Days for there lie,s to humanity.

Sorry.....type-O....lol...

govt should be there to preserve the peace
and protect/educate the innocent..

it should be watching
but not judging

helping not hindering

one of the big reasons govt wanted digetal
was it can be used to recieve and send

few know that phones broadcast every word
there is no place govt cannot listen in
[while your watching the tube..the tube is watching us]

its not as if its a great secret

if govt wanted to
it could catch every criminal
jail every pervert
but it dont want to

as previous people have posted
by the age 8 its too late..die is cast

there is a concolation
this is really a prison planet
a 3 dimentional prison if you will
[as we know in jail there are no innocents
were are all rejected by heaven and hell]

the sooner we decide to stop judging others
and seriously look at ourselves..the better it may become

the big key is
that ye do to others
will be given back to you in spades

that we do to the least
we did to god

the church has decieved too many
for to long...govt law education media
are all working for vile

coverd in a sheen of 'good'..
only those who want to be decieved can be decieved..

do unto others ...as you would have be done unto you

See the religious ones have a.........well some what different way of thinking to most...........and was once of great value.

I wonder what, they will do next?........maybe Runner can tell all, that more babies will sit well, with our planetary numbers game?

Lets say Iam wrong and religion is right......can someone please put me in the right direction.

LEAPO