I know what you mean, Belly.
I feel my opinions with deep conviction too. I s'pose all one can do as be as honest and critical with oneself and opinions as possible, and after that if you still feel strongly, take a stand.

I can't help feeling the Labor Party is bankrupt; they stand for nothing, and Rudd got what he deserved I'm afraid. I can forgive them though for losing their way, their naivity. Anyway, their a populist party and have to give the people what they want. It's the Australian people that are to blame.

The conservatives meanwhile stand for something deeply abhorrent to me and nothing could ever induce me to vote for them.

Lexi you write'of Mr Abbott

'A wealth of negativity: no tax on big miners, no tax on big polluters, now bash the unemployed and disabled.'

Well we still have no mining tax yet, you benefit greatly by coal and Ms Gillard has been banging on about penalising the unemployed herself if you did not notice. Most are now worse off than when we were 'saved'from the GFC which really shows it was not that bad here thanks to having a few bucks in the bank and that the 'big polluters' were able to keep people in work. And yes if we had another GFC their is no money left from the Howard Government to spend. We would just have to borrow on borrow which Labour seems addicted to. On top of this we are a complete laughing stock when it comes to dealing with the boat trade.

Runner,
firstly if you bothered to listen to the facts the so-called "ETS Money" is not going to the government and next - that "hatred" for Mr Abbott doesn't seem to be as profound as the "hatred" for Gillard.

Abbott already has enough of the newspapers and shock-jocks whipping up hysteria and lies on his behalf without adding to it.

Runner can we talk?
You are aware I find your views hard to except.
And I am aware you find the same in mine.
But did you see this mornings papers?
Still and forever an early riser I have read 4 city and two local ones.
At least one talks of a new discovery in our brains.
Seems we are different you and me.
Think we all knew it but evidence has been found that[please do not be insulted] says Liberals, thats me, not your party.
Are more inquiring.
And conservatives have a bigger part of the brain that concerns fear.
Still unable to post links,will fix that soon.
But Your comment about hating Tony Abbott is mate,,,, pure trash!
I fear and dislike his policy's,his ability to change what he thinks ,his possible impacts as leader.
MOST of all I FEAR he will be replaced!
Because your party will walk in an election if it takes place after he is gone, UNLESS Gillard is gone too.
Runner I have no more regard for Gillard or less than I have for Abbott!

wobbles">> Abbott already has enough of the newspapers and shock-jocks whipping up hysteria and lies on his behalf without adding to it.<<

NO CARBON TAX LIES

TIMOR SOLUTION LIES

CHILDCARE CENTRE LIES

BER LIES

PINK BATTS LIES

ABORIGINAL HOUSING LIES

MINERAL RESOURCE TAX LIES

GP SUPER CLINICS LIES

CASH FOR CLUNKERS LIES

GILLARD BEING FULL FORWARD FOR THE DOGS LIES

GILLARDS POWER SHARING POWER WITH THE GREENS LIE

AGED CARE BEDS LIES

GROCERY WATCH LIES

FUEL WATCH LIES

COMPUTERS FOR ALL SECONDARY STUDENTS LIES

TRADE TRAINING CENTER LIES

MONEY FOR RURAL RESEARCH AND DEVELOPEMENT LIES

ESTABLISH AN OFFICE FOR CHILDREN AND YOUTH LIES

REDUCE SPENDING ON CONSULTANTS AND ADVERTISING LIES

COMMONWEALTH CONTROL OF HOSPITALS LIES

REGIONAL PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM LIES

LEGALLY STOP JAPANESE WHALING LIES

4 YEAR TERMS FOR MHR AND SENATE LIES

MENINDEE LAKES SCHEME LIES

500 EXTRA FEDERAL POLICE LIES

ESTABLISH DEDICATED COASTWATCH LIES

RETAIN HEALTH INSURANCE REBATE LIES

RELIEVE THE TAX BURDON LIES

WATER TANKS FOR ALL SURF CLUBS LIES

GREEN LOANS SCHEME LIES

NEW FREE TO AIR TV NETWORK LIES

NO INCREASE IN HEALTH BUREAUCRATS LIES

CAPS ON POLITICAL DONATIONS AND SPENDING LIES

IMPLIMENT INDEPENDANT ELECTORAL COMMISSION LIES

ROOT AND BRANCH TAX REVIEW LIES

ESTABLISH HOMELAND SECURITY OFFICE LIES

EXPORT MARKET DEVELOPEMENT SCHEME LIES

BUILD NO MORE ONSHORE DETENTION CENTRES LIES

EQUAL PAY FOR WOMEN LIES

LIFT PRESSURE FROM WORKING FAMILIES LIES

Wobbles, your words are meaningless, who winds you up, you automaton imbecile.

Yes Belly, they left a few screws out of some brains.

That's why people like Wobbles can believe that the ETS money, if Julia gets it through, won't be going to government. That must be like believing the promise of no ETS in a government she leads.

Wobbles, I now start to see it all. I see that anyone stupid enough to believe that one, could actually be stupid enough to vote for our current Labor lot, on principal

Mate, if you ever find a principal in the lot of them be sure to let me know, "I'd like to see that".

Finding a principle in that lot would be about as hard as it has proved to be of finding any proof that global warming exists in the first place. I guess that's why the same people who can vote Labor can believe in the great con