When a party elected to represent us makes us feel hurt or upset, of course we hit back, but why elect a party like the Liberals -to my mind elitist, contrary in interests to the vast majority and a better friend to big business than it is to any average voter.

Yes, in NSW communication between the people and parliament is strained. But at least the ALP has links through to the workers and cannot afford to alienate them. If it errs, it pays dearly, as we are all seeing, but who are the Liberals?

The Liberals aren't built on worker support, they're just coasting on a wave of boredom and dissatisfaction with a longstanding government. Their constituents aren't workers, but the old guard boys clubs of big business and the elites.

I won't be fooled that they will represent us, the workers, because they have no lines of communication with workers. Their heroes and culture warriors fought for the employers, against unions, against workers.

The social elites are born into opportunity, with a 'silver spoon in their mouth'. How can they or their party be expected to sympathise with the working woman or man that just wants to get ahead in life, or at least stay above the poverty line?

They can't. So what need for social programs, playing field levellers with equitable redistribution of wealth? So vote as you will, but ask yourself, who will really do well out of a Liberal win? Are they your friends?

Handle do not be too judgmental.
Look at the figures 22% is Labors first preference vote.
We have a bottom much higher than that.
Why do you think LABOR VOTERS ARE ABOUT TO DUMP THEM
I hope it is because we demand better, a return to honesty,the very ties you claim we have and do not have, with government.
To blindly follow the leader without thought for right or wrong is to betray the ALP.
Its humiliation next month is the first step in saying you bought this on us all.
Now NSW must confront this, no factional leader should survive a day after this Parliament falls.
A new focused party must rebuild but first demolish the self interest and foul criminals who took my party into this massacre.
No growth is often greener and stronger after a bush fire stagnation is not of benefit.

I cant believe 22% of the state would still vote Labor.

I've never voted for the coalition or liberal, but one can only take so much. There comes a time when it is prudent to vote OUT a party with no thought as to who might replace them. This is that time. In fact, the thought of who might replace them is the only thing that saved their bacon 4 years ago. The same mistake WILL NOT be made again! It's been 8 long years of utter shenanigans.

I don't believe a new governmnet can immediately show the same utter contempt or be as wilfully inadequate or corrupt as the current lot. It may take at least 3 years.

Just what kind of signal (Like a beaten and cheated on spouse taking her husband back) would it send if NSW Labor were to go unpunished?

Make no mistake, it is time for retribution and punishment and a statement to be made and a lesson to be handed out. Politicians thought the country must learn from the merciless wrath of the NSW electorate. We need and absolute bloodbath. I'd be happy with them losing all seats, and the party I used to vote for being wound up completely.

union spokes peoople are a joke
wasnt the blue eyed budgy [hawke]..a rhodes scollar

to wit a blue collar slob...
that got the training to be a hobknob

the union sold out the workers long ago
[why drink with common smelly workers after work
when you can drink in high society with the snobs..just for not representing the workers properly]

thing is two party politricks is about lying
pretending..sort of like sending a platoon out to die
but first pas the new laws]..then send in the next party

its a two party system
where one party takes its turn to slap the poor
then the next goes in to do its work

all retired party hacks get on boards
go figure..thats the pay-off ..for their mission well done

look at peter beaty beatup..he went to usa selling trade
after giving us the shaft...[re power and water costs..etc]
just like that nsw blonde has done

then the libs get in and finish off the job
and people dont even know...dont even notice

the rusted on 20 percent..
would still vote for their party
even if satan himself was running it

but he is to busy running the 2 party system
and the public service and the bankers
and a lot more ..in this his realm

we truelly get the govt we deserve
so get used to knowing..they arnt there to serve the people
[at least not the common working class blue colour slobs who pay tax as the earn]

the dummies will never learn

democracy...[demon autocracy]..aint it greate mate?

"to my mind elitist, contrary in interests to the vast majority and a better friend to big business than it is to any average voter."
Handle, you have just described among your entire post, the NSW LABOR party too!

So the question is, who else do we vote for?
(The answer is, read up on the other candidates on your local electoral lists and decide for yourself)

But if you actually seriously believe that anything Keneally, or Carr or Iemma have done was 'for the people/workers etc' then I'm sorry but you're going to have to take your blinkers off and pay better attention.

King Hazza, you are right. I would love to see more diversity in representation, because I think most independents, knowing the limits on their potential power and thus aware of the limits that should logically apply to their ambition, they for the most part have as a result, cleaner, clearer agendas to help our communities. This is because most of them can only aspire to be the representative for their own area, as they don't have the political capital to be transferred or 'parachuted' between seats, they are beholden to their local electors, so they truly have to strive to be the best representative they can be, because they can't pick and choose a seat that is safe for them. If independents do better out of this state parliament than most others in our history, more power to them.