its funny how the truth
allways comes out ..eventually

be-lie/quote...''however I will read''
lol

i knew it
in my last post i said ..the same thing

the new theory..is ignore it ..and it wil go away
by 'it' i mean ..any dispute with labrat policy..
its the latest instruction..to their bloggers

ignoring things..makes them go-away

but..egsamin the reasoning/behind the lie's

accountants and money specialists
say.. its 5 percent cheaper..to do it now

but the thing is ..if it wasnt ever/really..a problem*
...it was just a con ..to sepperate us from our cash..
and prop up oppertuinists ..who want govt cash-subsidies

and thats about all folks

funny how liers
reveal them-selves ..in the end

its been a great*scam
like all fear cam-pains

those wanting govt/cash wanted it now
and got it

and we will be paying for the scam
for a long time to come

but its not the only scam..!

remember the utterances
that gave us co-contributing retirment scemes
that cashed up the money-market..just when it was about to collapse[last time]

just as they now..want the new cash-cow [carbon/credits]
as once again..the market..is about to melt-down

we got a 'super'..because govt didnt want a wage blowout
so our wage increase..became the first supper contributions
sukked from our wages...

[the fact NOW..our super hasnt even got..the value of our own contributions..reveals the scam

but lets look at it further into the past
we were told govt..couldnt pay future/pensions..

thus we needed now..to do it ourselves..
but we missed out how govt[so fully in debt at the time]..was willing to pay a top-up

funny how ...*now it ..can pay for ..future-pensions...lol
but not pay them ...*in the future"..!

we get scammed
all the time

they test it on idiots
and if the monkeys swallow it
when the pr men go to work..AND..we get it..!

but its all scams

anything govt does ..costs us..*paying for all of it
be it free solar..or perscription drugs ..think about who pays..?

see the spin for what it is
advertising works
spin works

its time we stoped drinking the coolaid
stop paying govt ANYTHING
enough is enough

Yes Belly, perhaps you're right. It does not inspire confidence in rational OLO dialogue when one is told to move on and clean the streets.

Evasiveness their game, denialist their name.

Bonmot, it's a bit rich to regale us with your lack of "confidence in rational OLO dialogue" when a statement in your first post has neither factual knowledge nor rationality, and sadly for you it is the crux of your position.
"If you believe 'scientists' were fiddling the figures then perhaps you have been suckered."

Why did you say that? Even the perpetrators put their hands up, the world knows that the numbers were doctored to assure outcome. The whole Global Warming, oops, forgive me, they changed the name to Climate Change just after the numbers were found to be concocted thing is a farce.

In a nutshell for you bonmot, the environmental movement (predominantly concerned with polluters paying and fixing) was high jacked by the “money” in the 80’s. The same “money” that owns and directs that movement coincidentally own the polluters. The appeasement to the new found environmental awareness was to either spend billions in the R&D of new cumbersome technologies or go on as they have been, but to go on as they have been requires a scapegoat for the plebs of the movement.

So they changed the chant from clean up the polluters to tax the plebs for being the end users. The tax does of course have reparations for the polluters, but Carbon freebies and the strategy of passing any real costs directly to the consumer have the “money” patting themselves on the back. Not only have they alleviated themselves of on costs, they will profit through their brokerage houses and banks. It is not the air that stinks in my country it is the politicians, lobby groups, and their “need a cause” acolytes.

interesting debate on the abc big ideas today
called 'creating a change of climate for change'
put on by 'greening of the warf'

anyhow it was a 'debate',,for the converted*
the only real debate was who's sceme should get govt funds
and should we have..carbon trading...or a carbon tax'...lol

anyhow i noted a dived camp none the less
felt like spilling some money on the ground
and they would kill each other to get it....
[who will be getting the cash will divide their temporary truce]

however..some interesting stuff came up
like here is some obsure thearter..has put up 1900 solar cells
[no doudt with a nice govt subsidy]...well done nick grimmey

so govt subsidy of 1.9 million
with via..a 'gift' from the sun king...lol
who sold them to the greenie culture vulture's..[warfy grenies..arty fatty loud proud arts-crowd ..who have long sukkled on the public teat's]

anyhow another thing noted was 'the sun king'..said the cost of 1 kilowatt of salar works out at $1.90 per ...[possably over their EXPECTED life of 20 years..lol]

another interesting point was raised by the mirror hot salt guy
[at least he was talking about off peak power...ie bbaseload...for a mere mbn cost each year...[that would only put 7 cents on our base rate...[which sounds pretty fair to me]

as long as exports
get taxed for their methane polution..too

who would think a mere 7 cents extra
would cover base load

but who can blieve the decievers
lobbying for their share of the tax cake..[the govt cash rash]

..anyhow*..he said..a mere 7 cents
would raise 46 billion a year

how much are the buggggers making now...wow?

no wonder they can afford to pay..the warf/greenies 44 cents a kilowhat?..

plus free solar cells

the carbon tax will cost about that too..[i guess?]
and we still wont get base-loading [peak-time power..

so sack all the rest
for 7 cents..[over 10 years].. he sounds a winner
from then on it must be free...yippee

yeah swallow the delusion..
it will need to be rebuilt EVERY 20/30 years

except..power prices..SHALL NEVER*..COME DOWN

but somehow..i think they are all
just trying to sell..their own grand-sceme

so between trading carbon..for the rich/money men

or a simple tax..all must pay...
according to how much they use*
give me the tax...

and ONLY SPEND IT ...ON a method that gives baseload

all the rest still need coal*

its all a sham anyhow
those..with old solarcells..on their roofs*..own the silver
[note silver has trippled 3 times]

its now near its..all-time high..
as they giveaway..more solar-cells
to the artyfarty crowd's..[and the planned solar-farms
for big business..all subsidised by us muggs..via govt-gift]

soon silver
..*stolen from the people ..globally
when we went 'decimal..ie..cupra*NICKLE-coins

and the worlds feds stole the silver-coins
from OUR shillings..*made of sterling silver..

[a huge con that still bears its bad/fruits
in ever inflative fiat-currency]..that buys ever*less

unlike silver
now booming in blooming value..!
that..*we should own...not the bankers..
who sold it..to the rich-speculaters

anyhow the new govt cash-cow.. will divide their camp
but..it is still..*ALL based on lies..

carbon isnt the 0NLY greenhouse/gas..
its the only one they dare mention..[blame that..on the lawyers]

BUT its time to tax all the grenhouse/gasses

lets start with methane from mining coal
and from gas leaks..from the coal seam-gas...

tax it*..as its mined..or exported
or tax it..*by who uses [polutes]..most

the most...MUST..pay more!

give everyone a base-allowance ..of carbon/credit's
from then on ..the big* users/..&*abusers MUST pay

the more you use
the more you *MUST pay
or else..we are still being conned