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Dear Squeers,

We are where we are. We can try to do something about the inequities of the world and/or we can revel in guilt. As individuals we can do little to remedy the inequities. As groups we can do more. Of course we can always revel in guilt.

The fundies wail, "We are all sinners."

You wrote: "I only ask that we give up professing our "humanity" and admit we are a vicious, self-serving race of ideologues exploiting geographical and historical good-fortune."

That's an unreasonable ask. That's not too different from the fundy wailing. You can admit to being part of a vicious, self-serving race of ideologues. I admit no such thing.

I have the good fortune to be where I am. Life is a matter of chance to a great extent. That makes me neither vicious nor self-serving. My good fortune can quickly disappear as it did with many of my relatives who were killed by the Nazis.

I don't see much difference between the Nazi or Marxist murder machines. The ideologies that promoted both murdered people by a we/they criterion. Class hatred is as ugly as race hatred.

Enjoy your guilt.
Posted by david f, Sunday, 30 January 2011 7:04:42 PM
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Correction:
Instead of "self-serving race of ideologues exploiting geographical and historical good-fortune", I should have said "buffoons".

Davidf,
guilt is just another facet of hubris, I have no time for it.
Think what you like.

I do hope you pay homage to the Soviets, btw, our allies who won the war and saved succeeding generations from global fascism.

I see no point discussing the matter further with you.
Posted by Squeers, Sunday, 30 January 2011 7:33:43 PM
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Dear Squeers,

I am quite happy to pay homage to the Soviets for saving the world from global fascism. I also pay homage to the US in winning the Cold War and saving the world from global Marxism.
Posted by david f, Sunday, 30 January 2011 8:57:02 PM
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"Evangelical"

Yanks preach hate in Uganda

Gay leader killed

As ye sow ye reap

They have bloody hands in

The murder of this man

http://tiny.cc/rj7e6

@davidf:

There's two kinds of folk

Those who think there's two kinds of

Folk and those who don't
Posted by Shintaro, Sunday, 30 January 2011 9:06:44 PM
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Shintaro,

"There's two kinds of folk
Those who think there's two kinds of
Folk and those who don't"

Brilliant!
David f., please take note of the above.
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 30 January 2011 9:18:21 PM
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Dear Poirot,

There are 10 kinds of folk. Those who think in binary and those who don't.
Posted by david f, Sunday, 30 January 2011 9:42:03 PM
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