Dear Agir,

I don't apologize for the truth. The Evangelical Sisterhood of St Mary, Bishop Spong and others have faced it, but you want an apology for it.

To repeat:

Evangelical Christianity and radical Islam want to make them like us. When they want to stay as they are EC & RI may feel justified in murdering the infidel. The Holocaust was partially a consequence of hundreds of years of Christian resentment at Jews wanting to continue to be Jews.

That above happens to be true.

"Unfogging", Boaz?

>>Periscope.. you're welcome. But faith in Christ has a rather unfogging effect on the brain.. truly.<<

Then perhaps you will be so kind as to unfog this for me.

"...Belfast, where deliberate confrontations between the two religions were engineered in order to establish 'territory'. Which faction - Prods or Micks - were 'outside of the unity found in Christ', I wonder? More importantly, from an us/them perspective, on whose side was God?"

Both sides professed to a "faith in Christ" - as indeed do you yourself - so one has to assume that their brains were unfogged as they beat the living daylights out of each other.

What was it that they saw, with such unfogged clarity, as they watched their on-the-wrong-team Christian brother's kneecaps dissolve in a mass of bone and gristle?

Dear AGIR,

I suggest you go to the site of the Evangelical Sisterhood of St Mary.

http://www.kanaan.org/international/israel/israel1.htm

The Guilt of Christianity Towards the Jewish People

After the horrors of the Holocaust were revealed, the question was raised: How could it have happened? The shocking truth is that the Holocaust was the culmination of centuries of hatred and violent persecution, often inspired by Christian theology.

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A Call to Repentance

The Catholic priest and historian Edward Flannery, reflecting on Christian anti-Semitism, observes:

'It is a tragedy in which Jesus participates, crucified again in the person of His people at the hand of many baptized in His name. The sin of anti-Semitism contains many sins, but in the end it is a denial of Christian faith, a failure of Christian hope, and a malady of Christian love. And was not this Christianity's supreme defection: that the Christian people to whom persecution was promised by its Master (John 16:2-4) was not the most persecuted people in Christendom, but rather was it the people from whom He came? And the ultimate scandal: that in carrying the burden of God in history the Jewish people did not find in the Christian churches an ally and defender but one of their most zealous detractors and oppressors? It is a story that calls for repentance.'

In the same spirit Mother Basilea writes:

'Today let us take our place at Jesus' side and look upon His people with His eyes, full of love and mercy. Then our hearts would ache to see this chosen people of God wandering through the centuries, wretched, despised, shunned, ostracized and afflicted with pain like the suffering Servant of God in Isaiah 53. Then, looking on them, we would be reminded of Him.'

Go to the site. Read what I have skipped. The truth is shocking.

I don't suppose you will ever be enlightened to your evil. I do not use the word, evil, lightly as it is not a word to be used lightly. I have used it because it is the most appropriate word I have to describe you.

Well I don't know you from a bar of soap, AGIR, but I don't you're any more "evil" than the next person (I don't think any of us are anything so grandiose), you just have a common human failing: conviction.
Isn't it more humble and less potentially dangerous to just admit that ultimately you "know" nothing?
Works for me :-)

yes david your so correct
you have proved your case

please nuke the vatican
and any nunneries ..you lot wish to take down

you were right all along
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/turkey-israel-must-apologize-for-flotilla-raid-regardless-of-un-findings-1.343606
jesus isnt the messiah

you lot are quite correct in taking any land that you want
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/haaretz-probe-idf-base-to-be-built-in-east-jerusalem-1.343540
god gave it to you..we have your word on that..
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/middleeast/news/article_1619436.php/First-solve-Iranian-threat-Israeli-Foreign-Minister-demands

and your word is god

you have led the world to the new way
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/06/israel-us-nuclear-non-proliferation
who needs peace ..or peacemakers..
setle it any way the settlers want to

let's serve the god of war
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1115650.html
lets make the globe ..like the walled city of israel
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/02/16/0250202/On-Retirement-Israeli-General-Takes-Credit-for-Stuxnet-Attacks

the banking cartel has no links to zionists
http://www.clickondetroit.com/money/26881130/detail.html
and even so
http://dailybail.com/home/madoff-banks-knew-i-was-a-crook-nyt-interview.html

the holocaust justifies anything ..you chose to do ..now
http://uruknet.com/?p=m75024&hd=&size=1&l=e
go ahead use ya nukes

its time the goys learnt who runs this realm
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/this-blog-is-now-illegal-enter-at-your-own-risk/

learnt just who owns this world
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/offtowarwithiran.php
..learns who owns the mediterainian
or learns just who controls the us nukes too
http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2011/02/flashback-us-nuclear-weapons-being.html

or ..who can travel through ..the suez sewer

fly wherever you like..
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=60
what makes the lowly jordians
or them lowly palistinians..think they own their own airspace

lets forget who the first terrorsists were
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsDJ3YivBSA
http://www.defimedia.info/blogs/1253/1979-Sadat-Israel-War-Treaty-against-Palestinians-and-Muslims-not-binding-on-Egyptians.html

i couldnt find the directive to bloggers
to blog israel in a good light

anyhow good night
you serve your masters well