Red neck mail again this morning, in part as a result of the confrontation for its own sake stand by shadows mob E Mails are infesting the Webb.
Spite, near hate and remote from under standing.
You, most , know that Australia is giving this much to other country's one.
Xenophobic too highlights our near neighbors.
And surely we know these e mails and such are sent like those unwanted phone messages to influence our votes/thoughts.
NSW ALP called it word of mouth in an attempt to recruit me to spread the word, rather like becoming an automatic fertilizer spreader.
A problem for our future and our country's future glows like a beacon here.
We are resorting to lies spin and our own brand of hatred and blindness.
Each of us, should try to avoid it,to look clearly at issues, see better ways to confront our foes in politics, maybe say so when they get it right.
Shadow Minister defends the $600.000 COST PER PERSON!
Australia, the western world, under John Winston Howard, Rudd, Gillard, gives to other country's.
The western world does, Abbott will/would.
Know it is in our country's interests to do so.
And know too a great deal is to stop spending that massive amount on just one arrival, and it stopped many.
Little man Tony and his like can look back at this and the last Parliament,and know we're poorer for confrontation without direction, my mob will follow this path too insulting us all.

Regardless, SM your Pacific Solution was offensive in terms of international law, it rendered Australia an international pariah, and was downright embarrassing to any fair minded Australian, if not digressive.

Today the Coalition is claiming that Timor can't handle the number of arrivals, nor could Naura or meet the requirements of the UNHCR let alone provide civilised detention.

Your statistics avoid, (or seek to conceal or under value), the push factors associated with asylum seekers and ignore that fact that multitudes more people seeking refugee status arrive by plane not boat. Thereby overblowing the problem of asylum seekers that arrive by boat, for nothing more than obvious self interested political goals.

Perhaps we could solve the whole, problem SM and bring back the White Australia policy?.

Thinker 2 I am more than aware your heart is good.
I even shared your views in part in the past.
Found Howard and some who departed his team after telling lies dreadful.
I am aware the Pacific solution harms our country internationally.
How much lower however can this country go?
IF we did stop aid, did turn boats back to die,we would be subject to trade bans that may cripple us.
Yet some here would do it at the drop of a hat,and still stalk other country's for human rights issues.
HOWEVER if we had leadership, and we do not,on both sides of the house we could craft a way of stopping the boats.
We should/must do that, why?
You will not like it but in truth the country has lost sight of statesman ship ideals and social concerns on both sides.
The ALP may yet be headed back to the opposition bench's, until Australia see,the true nature of the conservatives failed party.
I offer this to truly interested , this mornings Sydney Telegraph a well known conservative toilet roll of a larger than usual size has grabbed truth with both hands.
Some one may well be sacked for it, the political editor has a story about Tony Abbott [he also states the obvious about Gillard being a flop] we are lead by two who would be better in privet enterprise selling hot dogs from a stand in the footy grand stands.
I think just maybe my leader Mrs lemming, is headed for the polls with a silly idea about a health reform bill that is just as impressive as cash for clunkers.
oh,we will stop the boats give the same thought same concern for those who never get here because they wait until we ask.

Thinker2

Firstly the pacific solution actually did comply with international law.

Secondly, it did not even register on the consciousness of 99.9% of the world population, so the pariah status is wishful thinking on your part, and

Finally, according to you 80% of Australians are not fair thinking.

Shadow Minister,

Yes, I believe it was seen by certain echelons within the establishment as a wonderful innovation.
"Pacific Solution" has a certain ring to it, don't you think? It conjures up thoughts of another "solution" put into practice not so long ago.
One thing is for certain, is that whoever coined the term was seeking to remove the element of humanity from the psychological equation.

I have no doubt, big statement, that a majority of Australians want an end to the boats.
I BELIEVE IT.
but 80% never.