Shadow Minister I thank you for that post, it avoided your claim about me but was of use.
Some of what you said there is the first time you put something like that in print.
I actually thought I in your post history you told us a different view of Turnbull.
I as you do, claim my thoughts are honest opinions, sorry but I find it impossible to even consider much of yours are balanced
Now lets not get carried away,surely you understand our Barry is not winning this election, not even near it, LABOR IS THROWING IT AWAY
By its actions over 5 years.
A teddy bear old tattered and torn could, will win this election.
My prediction?
Unless Gillard is gone a hard fight to even get close ,but if Abbott leads your team we are a chance.
12 months from now new leadership for both party's new directions for both bank on it Abbott rides on the sharpest most dangerous of knives his own mouth.
PS Barry the bear has almost certainly driven me and thousands more away with child like statements, sorry I just have to vote greens he owned my vote but used it to flog me,silly man.

Belly,

If you follow my posts I have said all this before.

With regards Tony Abbott referring to the chart I sent, the proof is in the pudding.

TA is very smart, he is playing this game like chess. For example, the opposition to the flood levy was more about pinning the tag of "tax and spend" on the Labor machine. Labor fought this on the emotive front, and while just squeaking through on support for the bill lost popular support. (winning the battle but losing the war). The consequences of this is that Julia starts on the back foot for the next battle which is the mining tax.

The NBN is going to be represented as an extension of the BER, and Julia in shielding it from a cost benefit analysis is going to suffer the same fate as Keneally with the power sell off.

In war there is an old saying that "if you can't win, make your opponent lose."

As for your views I see blind allegiance to the Labor / union cause. While you have grumbles with the party, you are 100% focused against the coalition.

Good afternoon Comrades, did you bring the lad along Shadow Minister ,sounds like you.
I have been caught with my pance down,Socialist!
All ways good for a laugh you two.
I do love easy targets,those who truly can not think out side a set set of rules I never ever need to slag you off SM,your words,in fact you do it better than I ever could, my bet is Christopher Pyne, is the young bloke yours?

Julia Gillard has even begun to govern yet in a parliament with many considerations, inc a precarious balance, and only 6 mths young.
Even your handle is premature JGHF.

What do you really believe other than your handle.?

Are you Robin, to SM's Batman.? A sturdy sidekick for SM's postulations.?

Good morning thinker 2 we can both do better than respond to such trash talk I intend to.
Hope you too come to under stand its for the best.
It has killed this thread, may kill many more but I will continue to meet SM on the courts of verbal tennis, at my age I can not let victory's pass.

Sorry for JGHF, but he/she is your version of Captain "courageous" that I had to deal with.

I try mostly to tackle the issues not the people.