Dear Peng, thanks so much for waiting anxiously for my arrival back to this forum tonight!
I work full time Peng, and just arrived home - so don't stress :)

Lexi has kindly answered your probing question of how some Muslims have contributed to our society.

I will print just one of the many examples on that site.

This one's about the late Muslim Australian ,John Ilhan:

"Having amassed over $300 million by the young age of 40, John Ilhan became inspired to become a philanthropist, and contribute a large percentage of his earnings to charity. Before his death at the age of 42 in October of 2007, he was recognized as one of the country's most generous philanthropists, having had provided regular donations to a wide range of charitable organizations.[4]

Ilhan was able to make these donations through his self-established Ilhan Food Allergy Foundation. The Foundation was established primarily from Ilhan's $1 million donation towards it, and was inspired by his daughter's severe allergy to peanuts.[4]

During his lifetime, the Charity's that the Ilhan Food Allergy Foundation was able to contribute towards include: the Richmond Football Club, Kids Under Cover, The Alfred Hospital Department of Allergy, Immunology and Respiratory Medicine, and Murdoch Children's Research Institute Allergy and Immune Disorders Research Group Department of Allergy and Immunology.[5] [6"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ilhan

Impressive indeed?
I would humbly suggest Peng, that you have fallen into the old trap of painting all Muslims with the same brush.
There are many Australians of all races and religions who are good and bad in our society.

1)Lexi
a) “Most human groups tend to display ethnocentrism” In that case Immigration Nation is built around a lie. Its lead themes being,
not just that racial selectivity is wrong –but, that, the WAP was a peculiarly white Australian construct.—and its adoption was an affront to our Asian neighbours.
b) “This can change however - hostilities may subside if the subordinate group is able to gain greater equality with the dominant group.”
Unfortunately, we have a new paradigm in modern multicultural Australia . If there’s a disparity between group A & Group B there is a bureaucracy of social researchers who will tell you it could only be due to discrimination –our fault, not theirs! So groups can chose not to strive or adapt, but nevertheless prosper by nurturing the image that they are perpetual victims, which tends to increase mutual suspicions and hostility rather then diminish it.

2)Suzeonline
a) “why can't we also consider what the …immigrants can bring to Australia, rather than being afraid of these new people?”
I’d suggest that anyone who doesn’t have a healthy dose of concerned about what Muslim immigrants might bring is either poorly informed about world events, or is in denial. And I’d also suggest that anyone who is still under the delusion that immigrants generally, bring net benefits needs to re-read the piece by Mark O’Connor, above .

Part of the new paradigm (mentioned above to Lexi) is 24/7 internet, cable TV, ethnic TV/Radio; and state subsidised, one religions schools which sustain archaic beliefs and practises.

Which may be why:
--young men who have lived all their lives, in the UK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to7uR2Zbubk or,
-- Who’ve sought asylum, in Spain
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a2000zougamqatada or,
--Who’ve sought asylum, in Australia
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/04/13/1175971353190.html
Might identify with terrorist causes in far away places and take to killing their new hosts.

But of course we all know it’s only a minority which feels that way --- or maybe not?
http://pewglobal.org/2006/06/22/the-great-divide-how-westerners-and-muslims-view-each-other/

To adapt maxim that’s hot in climate change circles: if there is a threat, a prudent person takes precautionary measures

BlueCross says:

///Now, it really is upon you to identify these people you describe as 'Stealth invaders', "The ones I'm referring to as Stealth invaders are those who only got interested once this joint was well established & coming here didn't involve having to endure hardship."

We're all agog with anticipation and excitement waiting for your detailed response///

Well, BlueCross, you can stop being agog – have a peek at this:
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/christmas-island-surprise-as-another-asylum-seeker-boat-arrives/story-e6freon6-1225974528449

Note these points:
---“The boat is the fourth to arrive in Australian waters in a week, and takes to 132 the number of vessels seized this year.”
---“The Indonesian fishing vessel, carrying 68 passengers and two crew, made it to Christmas Island this morning before being intercepted by a navy vessel.”

Now that’s what I call STEALTH—They got all the way to Christmas island before anyone saw them –and, they were only spotted then because they needed to book-in for B&B.

But mind you for all new know –and are ever likely to know --they may have hopped off a tanker a few nautical miles out, called –up their mates on an Iphone, then idled into Flying Fish Cove – very stealthy, Indeed!

TBC,
And we are all agog as to how far your ignorance stretches.

Inividual <"TBC, And we are all agog as to how far your ignorance stretches."

Not ALL, Individual.
I find TBC very well read and intelligent, without the bigotry and plain racism that I see exhibited in spades on this thread.

I, for one, am not going to continue to contribute to a thread that has evolved into a hate-fest.

I will continue to enjoy the TV series 'Immigration Nation', and I will see you all on another thread.

Cheers,
Suze

Individual,

I see that SPGR has offered an interpretation of 'stealth invaders', his (or hers?), but that is not yours, or not yet, until you place on record what you actually meant.

Why so hard?

However, SPQR, I am suprised you didn't go for the legal arrivals that overstay and then apply to remain here, as 'stealth invaders'.

Surely, far more stealthy than being picked up in a boat and stuck in jail for years?

I see you are resorting to cheap shots, individual, and not ones that are becoming of your high standard posts I so enjoy reading.

Do try to improve, or you might be sent to an OLO hate detention camp.

Thanks for your kind words suzeonline.

I tend to agree with you.

Thanks to Peng too, for starting a thread about a TV show that could go either way at the moment. While I tend to agree with the content I saw, I also feel that it was leaving out a significant area, which may or may not be covered later.

However, the WAP is really too complex for even three short shows.

It would be good to hear from someone who knew very little about the WAP detail but watched the whole show, to hear what they thought having watched and digested it all, whatever their political leanings might be.