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Thanks all for the concern. No worries, as I have always been a strong person. My only weakness is having a soft heart.

Even if I do get kicked out, so what? I like it here, and so do the 'cubs'. We all know the gov comes up with all their so call law because they 'think' it will help solve problems. From what I observe, they are not solving much. They are trying, but they are addressing the wrong issues.

I want to go home. I didn't come here to be able to live in this country. I was on top of the world where I was before deciding to give up everything and move here. So what if I have it tough now. I can do it. I am doing it.

I don't want to share my personal story, because I do not need "kasihan" or "kesian". Why should I, because others do not know what is right and wrong?

My kids are happy, so am I. I am not happy with how the gov is treating me like a prostitute, I am not happy with a certain person for lying to me about everything. I know how to take action, and I am doing that.

What is my problem compared to the rest of the world problem. People are dying, and suffering because they have forgotten everything. I am not worried about myself. I am worried about this planet, and this is what is important to me, because it is my 'cubs' future. I do not want them to suffer what I have suffered.
Posted by jinny, Saturday, 13 November 2010 8:25:37 AM
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And.. just for you to know. I do NOT appreciate how some of you doubt my knowledge. I might be younger then you, but it does NOT mean I know less then you. You are the one with the problem of not knowing what to believe because you are so brain-washed.

I have done enough research and studies on the human brain. Do not preach you religion here, as you have no right to bestow on another human of your beliefs. If you belief what you belief, fine. practice it in your own way. Why do you have to make others approve your believes? You be happy with it. I don't see you point of having to debate with everyone here that yours is right, and others is wrong.

Most of you have so limited knowledge it just amuses me reading the stuff you write. I mean really, I actually get a kick out of it. Get real. Where on earth do you live? I don't think you live on this planet, coz the stuff you come up with is a bunch of BS!

Most of you comment based on Christianity. Too bad, the law is not based on that. Go to your church, and argue with your GOD there. Don't come up with ridiculous theories on a forum. Because, you are wasting other people's time, having to read this BS. Wake up, and smell the roses.

To end my note. All those who disses Islams(thank god i wasn't born one), you are as bad as they are. Live with it, because that is how others look at you as. Please don't even bother to contribute, because you are NOT CONTRIBUTING. PERIOD
Posted by jinny, Saturday, 13 November 2010 8:36:08 AM
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hi pied-piper...great to see you...i enjoyed philo's experience..re the near-death experience...and like most of you would love to help jinny...achieve...the outcome..she has earned

i dont think of you as un-knowledged...in fact am amased about how much you manage todo...and still remain so cheerfull

im not sure if any remember jewel
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/user.asp?id=55087&show=history

she went through much the same as jinny
i found a link to here story..but the link had been 'black'-listed
[she was user 1 from memory]...

i guess we could use a topic about how to help those...fighting to keep their kids...ok from memory jewel..was an adoptive parent...but she copped the same vilification..from the same system

but im drifting off the topic...

so i wont muddy the waters anymore with a quote
just thank all who contibuted..you..*all*..have so much KNOWLEDGE

i thank god..you use it wisely
[would like to hear more about near-deaths?]

of course its not egsactly the same thing...[from memory...only one third get the light experience...{and a case has been made for that to be..*in some casses..neurological]...but science canmt make life..let alone explain death..and we all die*

and we al get born..[AGAIN]..

life is about the journey
may your path be made sure
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 13 November 2010 9:01:40 AM
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Changing my name to The Pied Piper was my attempt to become anon but everyone kept calling me Jewel for so long afterwards that it was, in the end, rather silly of me.

I, she, me, was, is, want to be, am prevented from now being… a foster parent OUG. DoCS or now CS have not allowed me to have children since February, I am told there was some assumption made that I am not available but this assumption didn’t stop them coming to meet with me - print outs of my online posts in hand. They will deny this is any form of punishment because the power to deny is undeniable.

They did it again, this time they took 5 children suddenly (6 years old and under), no transition; some had again been with me nearly two years. I did not complain this time after previous punishments but still find myself treated as if I did. Go figure. My hands are raised, they win, but I suspect they want something more than a win and I don't understand what it is.

I’m unaware of Jinny’s problem. I’ve caught hints about housing difficulties? And a rather strong feeling that today is not a good day for her and she is rather cross or fed up. Strange, because didn’t we all just wake up to another day in paradise?
Posted by The Pied Piper, Saturday, 13 November 2010 10:59:06 AM
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they are..what they are..[im not really sure..that they even know who they are supposed to be serving...*[the children]

anyhow im sorry i couldnt help
and learnt the same lesson..in trying to help jinny

so i return to that i do know

dont know about paridise...
[im still quoting..*these extracts..from hell]..lol

You seem surprised,..but for..many countless-ages,..as men on earth reckon time..(and therefore*..how much longer..to us who labor here), have the messengers come here[to hell]..seeking the lost?

Long before Christ/came down to earth*..there were spirits laboring here.’

“‘Was the land..of After-death..organized very much as it is now
even before the..opening..of the Christian era?’

“‘Yes,..save that more spirits..as a rule..had*to..pass through Hell.

The more primitive a
man is at death as a general rule,..the less will his spiritual-side be developed...The less his
spiritual-side is developed,..the longer*..he will be on the astral plane,..and the more likely to pass..*for a time..into Hell.

But there comes a point in the development of man..when his
intellect becomes developed..at the expense of his spiritual_side,..and then..sooner or later
the advance of civilization..will have a set-back.

“‘Thus in the days of the Greeks..and Romans the intellect.outran the spiritual_development,..and so Hell became crowded with men/women..[beings]..who refused*..to believe in God..or a future life.

The fall of that civilization,..though for a time it threw back civilization,..made it easier for men..in the West..to develop their spiritual side.

At times I fear that a similar..catastrophe may once more be necessary...But God is merciful,..and we..*from this side are
anxiously working..to infuse new spiritual-life..into the world without..the necessity of such..a disaster.

“‘In early,..primitive days..the astral plane,..or Hell held almost all..who passed over..for a long time.’

“‘But..this seems unjust,..for they knew no better,’..I said.

“‘It was not unjust;..it was simply..a great natural law.
[sepperation of sheep/goats..tares/wheat...good/bad..etc]

Those..whose whole lives..were devoted to fighting..and cruelty would naturally..go on acting in the same way for a long-time after death.

It would only be after..a long period spent on this side..that they would*..begin to desire*..a different kind of life.’

“‘All those..who resisted..the temptation/to obsess..would probably remain on the astral-plane..till
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 13 November 2010 12:16:58 PM
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they had developed sufficiently to pass upward..to the spiritual plane.

At the same time,..the tendency to obsess*..among primitive people is very strong,..and therefore many fall..natural;ly}..to Hell.’

“‘Is it..the whole course..of our life
that fixes the particular division..of Hell into..which..we finally fall,..or is it..the type*..of obsession..which we practice.’

“‘Many old men..pass almost at once..to Hell.

They have,..outworn their astral-bodies..almost as much as they have their physical-bodies.

These will sink..down to the division..corresponding with that type of sin..which has predominated*..in their*lives..hate,..lust,..gossip/faulsejudgment..and so forth.

But those..who pass over in early..or middle life have not yet worn out their astral..bodies,..nor completely developed..their character.

Their division..is that which/corresponds with the type of obsession which..*they have practiced.

That is the worst type..of obsession.’{first]

“I interrupted,..‘I understand...In my own case I obsessed for drink,..lust,..and..finally for..revenge*...The latter,..being a more spiritual-sin,..dragged me down..*deeper..than..would the
other two types..of obsession.’

“My rescuer continued:..‘At the same/time,..the type*-of life..a man has lived..very-largely..decides the type of obsession which is likely to tempt him most.

A lustful man,..if..*he falls into obsessing,..will probably do it for the purpose of satisfying..his lust,..and so/will fall..ultimately into the division..in which lust predominates..

NEXT quote..“I..have no very clear-idea..of what took place
in that..temporary/rest-house,..the light..was so intense that I was practically blind..while there...But at the same time..I gained some
rest.

A feeling of peace..and hope seemed to fill..that building,..utterly unlike the/atmosphere..in any of the ordinary buildings..in Hell.

“To me..a man used to speak..*words of comfort..and hope,..and my spirit seemed to..grow more quiet...Day after day..I used to hear singing,..*real singing,..sweet..and beautiful;

oh!..how different..from the horrible discord..I had heretofore
heard..in Hell..designated by/the name of singing.

“At length the messenger..who had brought me to the house..said,..‘Now you must go/back..strengthened by your rest here..to the fourth division.

Once there..you must*get..some companion..to come-back..with you.

When you have done this,..return..to this rest-house with
him,..and here..you will meet one..whom..*you drove from your side..long-years/ago.’..
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 13 November 2010 12:26:28 PM
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