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Philo

You speak as if you have the answers. You have a theory.

The many dieties worshiped in Hinduism for example have different attributes and serve as guiding sources throughout life, they are strong willed and are by no means how you describe them, I have met many peaceful men/women who are Hindu, they are more at peace with themselves and the world than you are.

I base this conclusion on your previous post, the conviction in your words displayed an ignorance and disrespect toward beliefs other than your own.

A person who is secure and at peace accepts life the way it is and respects all point of views without condemnation.
Posted by Nicnoto, Thursday, 11 November 2010 8:24:46 AM
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till..through repeated experiences..and developments..it attains to such..a degree..of intellectual..and moral-consciousness..that it stands..upon..the same level..as its spiritual-guardians,

and..*then it..in turn becomes..the spiritual-guardian of..some new-born/soul

I have also..been taught..that the soul-germ..in its first_stage..is only..like a seed,..like,..in fact,..any other seed..in the minuteness..of its size..and powers.

It is,..in fact,..a spark..*of the Divine_Essence/containing in itself..all..that will constitute..the perfected human-soul...

Of its very essence..it is immortal..and..indestructible,..because..it is seed*from that which is..*Immortal..and..*Indestructible.

But..as a seed..has_to/be..sown..into the {material}-darkness..and degradation of the..material-earth..in order that it may germinate,..

so has the soul-seed..*to be sown..in*to..the corruptions..of matter,..first*..in its lower..and then..in its higher_forms.

Each animal..is in itself..A_type of..a soul-seed,..the human_type..mearly..being the highest*..of all,..

and each seed will..in turn..develop to the highest-degree..*possible for it*..through successive spheres..and experiences.

Some/schools..of thought hold that..the soul*..will progress more rapidly..if it is again..and again..returned to material-life..to be born anew,..in a fresh-form*..each time,..

and to live..over..again the experiences..
it has missed,..{victim/last time...oppressor..this*time..;or visa-versa]

we are ALL*..a work..in progress/process
..cast no stones..]

the life-experiences/..missed..or..needing to..expiate..in the mortal-form..the prior-wrongs..done..in a former incarnation.

The spiritual-children..of this school of thought..will indeed be thus...be returned to earth again,..and..for them..each new-lesson will have to be worked-out..in an earthly_life.

"But..it does not follow..that this experience..will be the lot..of all spirits.

There are other schools..who maintain..that the spirit spheres..contain means for..the education of the soul..quite as useful..and expeditious;..

and..with..the spiritual children committed..to their charge..the totally different*course..of sending them..to gather*experience..in the lower-spheres..rather than..*to earth,..will-be..pursued.

[such like..as we see being done here/..now]

They*..will be..made*..to live over*..in memory..their past earth-life
and..to expiate..in the*spirit..the wrongs done..in their earthly existences.

As each soul differs in its character..or individuality,..so each must be trained..by a different method,..

[clearly..us earth-incarnations..
are the hard-cases..{doudting/thomas}...types]

oe else we..would all*..resemble..each other..so exactly
that a monotonous*..sameness..would result..and there would be none of that..variety..and contrast..which give a charm..to earthly life,..as well as revealing..different aspects..of good[god]

and..this..I believe..we will still continue..to do
in the..celestial spheres.
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 11 November 2010 8:54:40 AM
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that most of the spirits here..fancy themselves
still..*in the earthly counterpart..and wonder why..all looks so dark.and foul.and dingy.

In like manner..this same city..has its spiritual prototype..in the higher-spheres to which all..that was*..fair and good..and noble..in its life has been attracted,..and where those/spirits..who were good and true..have gone to dwell;

for in the lives of cities..as of men the spiritual-emanations..
are attracted upwards..or downwards..according as there is good or evil
in the deeds..done in them.

And as the deeds done..in this city..have..in evil..*far exceeded those
which were good,..so this city is far larger,..far more thickly
peopled in this sphere..than..in those above.

In the ages to come..when the spirits who/are here now..shall have progressed,
that heavenly counterpart..will be fully finished..and fully peopled,..and then
will this place..we gaze at now..have crumbled into dust--faded..from this sphere."

Thus..in our wanderings..we shall*..only visit those..with whom either
from nationality..or temperament...we have..*some germ..of feeling,*
..however slight,..in common..with."

spiritual guardians..who from the celestial spheres..superintend..its welfare
and educate..the soul..by which*means..as*seem best..to*them..in their wisdom.

and for them..each new lesson..will have*to be
worked-out..in*..an earthly life.

"But it does not follow..that this experience
will be..the lot..of all spirits.

oops seem to be repeating...

[anyhow..
this is wrote..by quote...
for those who would..
of this..take note]

thats all..i feel.;.
needs be wrote

other bits here
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4008&page=0
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11183&page=0

heck..scatterd all over

http://new-birth.net/booklet/Wanderer_a4.pdf
http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/sacredtexts/sacredthemesconly.html
http://www.divinetruth.info/naturallovepathdocuments.htm

http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/index.php
http://forum.worldfreemansociety.org/index.php?sid=51c69948cab332b2bec5fe2f4eaa8a5a
http://civilrights.org.nz/forum/index.php
http://morgana.forumco.com/default.asp

http://www.divinetruth.info/Downloads/CD/NaturalLove/PDFs/Franchezzo%20-%20A%20Wanderer%20In%20The%20Spirit%20Lands.pdf

anyhow thats it..4 now

make of it..as you will..
as for me..this work is done* .
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 11 November 2010 8:57:07 AM
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Very ambiguous, Philo,

<<The human spirit needs security, identity, love and peace, which only one God can give.>>

What exactly do you mean by “human spirit”?

Do you mean consciousness and emotions? If so, then demonstrate that, not only an imagined being, but specifically one (as opposed to many) can provide security, identity, love and peace.

Or do you mean a ghostly soul that leaves the physical body when one dies? If so, then demonstrate that such a thing exists.

<<If one believes in many gods there is no single character image, no security of being loved and deep inner peace as they are diverse in behaviour and indifferent to one's person.>>

I could just as easily assert that if one believes in many gods, then there is more security and deep inner peace as they are loved by many. Not just one.

There, we’re even.
Posted by AJ Philips, Thursday, 11 November 2010 9:30:25 AM
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The belief in evil spirits is as old as time. The belief springs from the nature of man as a seeking, curious, speculative creature, providing him if not with the answers to the impounderables of life, at least with a faith to steady him and give him direction.

Down the ages ring questions as to the nature of humankind; where on the spectrum of might, power and understanding do men and women belong? Are they masters of their own destiny or playthings of the gods? How will the battle of good and evil end? Is death an end or a beginning?

In what we like to think of as more primitive times man speculated and symbolised his answers in story: what we call myth. What causes night and day? Why do the seasons come and go? How? What's the origin of fire? Flood? Disaster?

Every culture, it would seem, has its mythology, needs answers to the unknown that satisfies an inner need. Some people need religion to give them direction.

There are many Christian denominations and other religions that have ceremonies for driving out devils and evil spirits.

The New Testament tells that Jesus Christ exorcised devils. Jesus also gave His apostles the power to drive out devils. In the Roman Catholic Church, an exorcism is a ceremony that consists of a series of prayers recited over the possessed person.

In the A.D. 200's the church established the office of "exorcist," one who performs an exorcism. Priests hold this office but require a bishop's permission to perform an exorcism. The church's sacrament of baptism and the blessing of holy oil and holy water include prayers that ask God for protection from attacks by devils.
Posted by Lexi, Thursday, 11 November 2010 10:13:34 AM
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Nicnoto,
Of course you on your own premise condemn yourself as a disturbed person as you also condem. Learn the difference between condemnation and making a judgement on a point of view. Look at the confusion jinny is in as she cannot accept life the way it is.
"A person who is secure and at peace accepts life the way it is and respects all point of views without condemnation."
Posted by Philo, Thursday, 11 November 2010 12:36:12 PM
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