Posted by Philo, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 7:33:48 PM

" ... I am interested to note DreamOn has faith in his wo(o)den gods by his following quote, "Very soon now (touch wood) ... "

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Well, perhaps not the best choice of expression to convey my intended meaning dear *Philo* as in reality, it is a matter about which we will not have certainty until the next stage of the process as referred to above, that being the intended exit from Australia

AND

I no longer practice faith in belief systems/god concepts as I once did. Now, in the absence of any compelling evidence to the contrary, I prefer mostly to be the observer.

And even if their is a God replete with Heavenly Spirit Hosts etc, I believe that you can be a faithless, (ignorant) & secular (agnostic/atheist/whatever) and overall express One's Self during One's Life in a manner entirely consistent with the best of the essence of the shared good values & traditions that we at times hold in common during our shared Humanity to achieve immortality/get to Heaven, on this our not so equally shared "Green House Cranky" planet, during this our possibly only brief conscious sojourn in this physical, space-time reality,

(at least brief relative to the sort of age the scientists estimate the uni(multi)verse to be, and how old it will become before all the stars turn dim and the universe collapses and folds back into itSelf through a myriad of black holes.)

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Of course, this earth is eventually destined to be burnt to a crisp by the sun well before then, so either we evolve into some kind of energy being ala the Soma Heliakon or something similar

(mayhaps a possible evolutionary path "bequeathed/seeded" unto/into us by *The Christ Being*)

or we develop "warp" speed capability or something equally amazing AND find habitable other planets

OR

we are #$%^%^ as a species anyway.

Every true monotheist who believes there is but one God and one Spirit must deny the existence of any spirit beings other than the spirit of man. Any other view is polytheistic superstition. Man is currently in opposition to the spirit and character of God. The spirit of Man is the satan [Hebrew satanas] in opposition to God.

In every case in the NT where the devil or satan is mentioned it identifies a spirit found in a physical man in opposition to God. It is the spirit of the man himself. As in the case of the satan in Matthew 4 it was the leader of the Zealots held out in the desert with his stone sucking followers with an agenda to overthrow Roman occupation of the temple and their land. The climax to this endeavour was Masada while Jesus kingdom was forever - forgiveness, peace and love for enemies.

There is but one power in the universe able to create, change and destroy matter - God. He is the creative power of the universe that was supposed to be expressed in His creation by every man. That power was expressed in the man Jesus Christ.

Jesus was a man in his time concerned for the welfare of the sick, physically and mentally impaired, the fearful and despairing, the moral and legal sinner, the oppressed and captive slaves; as he endeavored to set each free from their particular oppression. It is the spirit of Christ that should be manifest in each. It is the character and mission of this man in his time that should inspire each of us in our time with the same care and compassion. In this way we express the spirit and character of God.

i find agreement..with your words philo
as long as it dosnt imply jesus..as the one..[god]...but mans best teacher..[who demonstrated..to all men...we each*..have god/within*]

as he said...see me..[that you see..me..do]..see our father..[doing]

he also said..that ye see me do..ye will do greater
[not of ourselves..but the one good/god..within us all]

we cannot do*.greater..than god

our collective..{not good]..can be seen..as an embodyment of vile..
summerised as..'satan'...but*..satan..is..by the same measure not real..

[even if the vile..he..can be said/to embody..is seemingly very real...[to those taking..the[royal]..blue[blood]..[materialistic/judgmental[ego]-pill..]

[and satan..is cetainly not..any oppisite/..any opposing..to the good's of god]

anyhow continue/quote
,..you will see how..exceedingly difficult
it would be..to protect them.

Perhaps my ideas..are colored by the circumstances..of race
and my earthly education,..but I confess I_should wish..to limit
the practice of mediumship..to those who have proved their readiness
to give up*..more..material*..advantages..for its sake.

I would,..in fact,..rather see them..set apart
as a body..who have no share in
the ambitions of mankind...

i guess thats..what i been doing...but its not easy..but it is my choice
[still havnt reached..the bit..im..seeking to quote]

weird,..horrible looking forms approaching us.
These were astral shells..which had never known soul life,
but,..unlike the pleasant waxy looking astral..shells..from which we
had just parted,..these were..in all respects..repulsive.

"These,"..said Hassein,.."are the emanations..thrown off by men..and women
of..a low intellectual/type and...living..evil,..opbsessional-sensual lives.

They are from the slums..of the earthly-life--not alone..the social slums,.
...but also from a..higher grade of society..where there are moral slums..quite as degraded.

Such beings..as these,..which..when,,animated by an evil intelligence
can be used..for the very worst purposes...Being so very material,..they can
even be used..to affect material matter upon earth,..and have been so used in
the practice of what is known as..Black Magic and witchcraft,..and they are also
(but very rarely)..used by higher intelligences to effect..physical phenomena at séances.

Where wise..and good intelligences control them..no harm will be done,
but..under the direction of the evil ..or ignorant they become a danger
beyond my power..fully to express.

The constant renewal of..the animal..and astral life
often enables these..vampire spirits..to hang about the earth..for centuries."

"Is..it possible..for a vampire spirit..to possess itself..of a sufficient amount of materiality..to appear in..mortal form..and mingle with men..as described in many of the tales..told of such creatures?"

"If you mean..to ask..if..the vampire can make..to itself..a material body,.I say no,
By far..the larger number..of vampire spirits,..are not..in possession of
an earthly body,..and they hover about the earth..in their own astral envelope,

sucking away the earthly life..of mediumistic*persons[feeding their old vile..with their new viles]....whose peculiar fruits..of their works...and organization..makes them* liable to..become..the prey of..such influences,..

while they are themselves..remain/quite ignorant..
that such beings..as these..astrals exist.

The poor mortals suffer..from a constant sense of exhaustion..and languor
without suspecting..to/what..it is to be attributed."

"But cannot spirit guardians protect mortals..from these beings?"
"Not always...In a great measure..they*..do protect them,..but only as one
may protect a person from..infectious fevers,..by showing them the danger
and warning them to avoid..spots where,..owing to the associations with their
earthly lives,..to which..the vampire spirits..are specially attracted.

This..the guardian spirit..does..by instilling into the mind of the mortal
an instinctive dread..of the places..where crimes have been committed,
or persons..of evil lives..have lived.

But since..man is..and..must..*be..in all respects..a free agent,
it is not possible to do more.

He cannot be directed..in all things..like a puppet,..and must..in a great measure
gather..his own experience..for himself,..however bitter..may prove its fruits.

Knowledge,..guidance..and help...*will always be*..given,..but only in such a manner
as will..*not interfere with man's..free will,..and only such/..knowledge..as he
himself desires;..nothing..*will ever be forced..upon him..by the spirit world."

so saying..here is a test..and the final advices..prior..to the test
[by one entering..into hell...to redeem..past works...and save others[also having good/within]

Always remember..*that you will*be..surrounded by
every species of deceit..and falsehood,..

and believe..no*one..who comes to you..as a messenger from us..

Your thoughts..they may guess,..but they..will not be able to
read them clearly,..since you are above them..in spiritual development,

and although your having to..put on to a certain degree
their own condition..on entering their sphere..your body..will enable them to sense a portion of your thoughts,..it will be but imperfectly,..and only*..in those matters where your*own lower passions..still form a certain link between you and them.

With the highest powers of their intellect..to help them..they will plot and..scheme with great cleverness..to tempt and entrap you.

In these regions..there are men who were amongst the
greatest intellectual-powers..of their age,..but whose awful careers..of wickedness have sunk them to these/spheres where they reign..over all around them--even worse..and more despotic tyrants..*now..than they were upon earth.

Beware,then,..and heed all the warnings we have given you.
From time to time..you will receive/help and encouragement..from your sincere*friends until your mission shall have been accomplished..and you return,..let us hope,..as a victor in a good cause.

ir not fall into their temptations..!
but that will*be..of..your own choice

Through..the Wall..of Fire..{passion}

The companion..who was assigned to me..in this expedition
was a spirit..who had been in this sphere before,..and who was,
therefore,..well fitted to act as my guide..on entering this Land of Horrors.

After a short-time..we were to separate,..he told me,
and each*..to follow his*own..path-destiny-but..at any time
either of us..could,..if-needful,.summon the other to his aid..in case of extremity.

As we drew near..the great bank of smoke..and flame..I remarked to my companion..upon the strangely-material/appearance..they presented.

I was accustomed..in the spirit world..to the realism..and solidity of all our surroundings which mortals are apt to imagine..must be..of some ethereal..and intangible nature,..since/they are not visible..to ordinary eyesight,-

-still..these thick clouds of smoke,..these leaping tongues of flame,..were contrary to what I had pictured Hell..as being like...I had seen dark..and dreary countries..and unhappy/spirits..in my wanderings,

but I had seen..no flames,..no fire of any sort,..and I had totally disbelieved in..material flames..in a palpable form,..

and had deemed..the fires of Hell
to be merely a figure of speech..to express..a mental state

one under god,
Jesus was more than a mere teacher of ideas. His life and character expressed the very image of God. That which God designed us to image in our lives.

It is the reality of our life that expresses the very character of who we are, our attitudes etc that demonstrates our selfish heart or the image of God. In that sense our spirit is born of God as His son. God is our Father and we are His child - we all need a spiritual birth from God. Jesus spirit i.e. his heart and actions demonstrated God was expressed in him. That is why we can admire him and call him Lord and Master. We not only should believe his teaching but live our lives in sacrifice for others even our enemies as he demonstrated.

God is moral purity and we as humans have all failed in our purity so we need to be born again of God by His spirit. The kingdom of God is not enforced upon people by State laws but by the individual heart responding to the purity of God.