Pelican succeeds in summing up the main problem about this article, the author, and his groupies, in one short sentence:

<" If you look for feminazis you will find them but mostly they will be in your own mind."

Indeed.

Suzieonline, I used the first part of

"Why Do We Demonize Men Who Are Honest About Their Sexual Needs?"

http://www.alternet.org/sex/148291/why_do_we_demonize_men_who_are_honest_about_their_sexual_needs/

An article that appears in todays Herald sun, is rather interesting

Sex politics go too far
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/sex-politics-goes-too-far/story-e6frfhqf-1225938378997

The final comment in that story sums it up for me:

"Essentially, we have criminalised boyhood."

I'm not prepared to stand for that and I've no respect whatever for those who seek to justify it.

pelican "If you look for feminazis you will find them but mostly they will be in your own mind." the same deal cut's for a lot of feminist work on identifying oppression.

You and Suzie are both pointing to other countries to seemingly justify ignoring vilification of men in our country. You have both made claims along the lines that "no women " are saying certain things or wanting certain outcomes when clearly some do.

Is it really necessary to say that discrimination against women must be mostly stopped across the world before we can look at some of what's happening in our own society and say that's not a good direction?

The DV ad's being a case in point where there was a clear and deliberate attempt to misrepresent DV. Unless you subscribe to the DV is something women can't do to a man theory the portrayal of DV in those ad's did not match any credible view of the real world gender breakup especially when emotional abuse and controlling behaviors are included. I have mixed views about the value of such ad's, I hope that they make it clear to some that certain behaviors are not Ok who may not have got the message elsewhere but I really don't like it when they are presented in a dishonest manner.

Having had a partner who believed it was Ok to hit when she was upset and seen how little support I got from idiot's keen to point out that I was bigger so what harm can it do I do think that some do need to be told by the broader society that their actions are not Ok.

I do think some get a bit precious about the portrayal of men in the media just as some feminists get a bit precious about the portrayal of women in the media but that does not mean that it's not legitimate to point out concerns nor should we need to wait until gender discrimination in every village in Afghanistan is stopped before we can talk about an unhealthy trend here.

R0bert

Feminism is the problem.. Women these days are too smart for their own good. They were better off serving their male counterparts being sex objects and looking after kids. I believe women were much happier then.
Nowadays they can't properly cater for their male friends. Marriage has gone out the window. Young males would rather buy a new car than save money for a house deposit.
Every body wants to live seperate lives. Single lives.
Young females get around with skirts two inches below the snom, there's no need for imagination any more.
I don't know how you could respect the modern woman. There's nothing left to make you want to own them any more.
I will stick to my life time wife and best friend.

pelican,

I think JamesH's gripes can coexist with your downtrodden martyrs of society. You seem to want a monopoly for women to be the only victims. I get so tired of feminists in our society appropriating the hardships of women in other countries and cultures, and using the phrase 'not so long ago'. It has no relevance to what James is discussing. Which is here, now, in our society.

'Women have never claimed men to be inferior or to possess a lesser intellect.'
Ever read 'mere male' in 'The Weekly' :-)? I think you'd have to accept there is an undercurrent of women as inherently better or more virtuous beings in the FSC material. When women are violent we must look to help them and see what's wrong, maybe they're depressed or were abused as a child. Men are just acting their gender.

'I suspect it has nothing to do with feminism and more to do with other social changes that also see younger men committing violent crime.'

I would disagree. I think it's the inevitable consequence of equality. The more equality women have the more we will have equality in violence, drugs, promiscuity. Unless you believe men are inherently more violent and women are better people.

'It not being honest or helpful to deny domestic violence is mainly perpetrated by men.'

In the lower scale it isn't. It's actually pretty even. It depends on your definition of domestic violence. There are behaviours that if a man does it it's DV, but if a woman does it it's being 'spirited'. It's all to do with the relative strengths of men and women. If you define DV narrowly as ongoing intimidation and domination by one partner only, I'd guess it's about 80-20. But most couples when one is violent so is the other.

I don't know any men who see themselves as head of the household. Most of my mates are hen-pecked.

James,

'The mother says a girl texted a picture of her breasts to a boy's mobile phone and the boy was suspended.'

Sounds fair.