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I know your busy BUT..how would you change the world?

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“Nothing exists..on earth...
which has not..its counter-part..here.

We see this in the trees and birds and buildings,..
as also..in many other things.

But all things here..lack crude-matter.”

“H.J.L...‘But do..evil thoughts..here
influence others..to/do..evil?’

“He. ..When on earth..did you never notice..that two men,or even more,...each working/independently*,..even separated from each other/by thousands of miles,..at the same*..moment...make the same..discovery?’

“H.J.L...‘Yes,..often,..
but we/put it down to coincidence.

“He...‘There is no such thing as coincidence.

That word is merely..a cloak employed/by men...
to disguise the fact..that they are ignorant of
some...of the fundamental-laws of..God.’

“‘Again..have you never seen;how an idea will continue for ages to influence/mankind,..though all...who knew its origin..have passed away?’

‘Have you never seen/how..such an idea,..though forgotten in its original home,..will_yet..reappear somewhere else...

without any known connection..having taken place?’

“H.J.L.....Then,..once created,...a thought/may go on creating...fresh thoughts?

“He...‘Yes;....but only such ...as relate..to it.

It could-not..create a fresh thought*..on an entirely different subject.’

“H.J.L...But a man can.

Why,..then,..is it different?

He may..at one-time create..a cruel-thought..which will go-on..influencing others.....to do cruel deeds,..

yet at the next moment..he/may....create a thought of kindness.....which others will develop into much...that is good.

Why/this....difference?

“He...‘Of what_does..a man consist?’
“H.J.L....Matter,..form,..force...[body/soul/spirit]

“He...‘Of what does a thought,..once created*..,consist?’
“H.J.L...I suppose..form only.

“He...‘You are answered.’
“H.J.L...Ah,..then it is...the presence..of what you call force.

What is force?
“He. ..‘Some say force..is God,and some that force..and matter are God,

and some that..force and matter/are the same,
and it is this ..that is God....

Can man create either?’

“H.J.L...I suppose he..creates only forms.
“He...‘Are you not..,then,.. answered?’

“H.J.L...I don’t see quite/how..it answers my original question,..namely,...why we can/create..variant-thoughts..when our own thoughts..cannot.?’

“He...‘God creates you;..you create your thought:
your thought influences others.’

“Your thought’s action..is bounded by/..the thought..that created it;
your actions are/bounded...by the force..which actuates you.

God is bounded by nothing.
“H.J.L...I see it all.

I cannot think about_that.....of which I have no knowledge. ..

But God..is knowledge...“He...‘God is all..in all"..

You have l-earnt..your first lessons...
Posted by one under god, Friday, 22 October 2010 6:55:10 PM
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OUG, I disagree with just about everything you write but good on you for ignoring antiseptic. He's just a baiter, and you're not taking the bait. More power to you.
Posted by samsung, Friday, 22 October 2010 7:07:22 PM
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FOR MOST...its death...WHERE is thy sting
[or crossing-over]

what exactly..takes place at the moment of separation,
the sensations..experienced by the passing soul.

The writers of religious text-books tell us nothing of
such things...for one very simple reason—they do not know.

The physical body many times appeared to be suffering acutely,
either from actual pain or through laboured or restricted breathing.

To this extent such passing..had all the appearance of being extremely painful.

Was this really so?—was a question I had often asked myself.

Whatever was the true answer..I could never really believe
that the actual physical process of..“dying”..was a painful one,..notwithstanding that it appeared so.

The answer to my question..I knew I would have..one day,..
and I always hoped that at least..my passing would not be violent,..whatever else it might be.

My hopes were fulfilled...My end was not violent,
but it was laboured,..as were so many..that I had witnessed.

I had a presentiment..that my days on earth were drawing to a close
only a short while before my passing...There was a heaviness of the mind,..something akin to drowsiness,..as I lay in my bed.

Many times I had a feeling of floating away..and of gently returning.
Doubtless..during such periods..those who were concerned with my physical welfare..were under the impression that,..if I had not actually passed,.I was sinking rapidly.

During such lucid intervals that I had,.I endured no feelings of physical discomfort...I could..see and hear..what was going on around me,..and I could “sense”..the mental distress that my condition was occasioning.

And yet..I had the sensation of..the most extraordinary exhilaration of the mind...I knew for certain..that my time had come to pass on,..
and I was full of eagerness..to be gone.

I had no fear,..no misgivings,..no doubts,..no regrets—
so far—at thus leaving the earth world.

(My regrets were to come later,
but of these I shall speak..in due course.)

All that I wanted..was to be away.

I suddenly felt a great urge..to rise up..
I had no..physical-feeling..whatever,......
Posted by one under god, Friday, 22 October 2010 8:28:36 PM
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..in the same way..that physical feeling..is absent during a dream,..but I was mentally alert..

however much..my body seemed to contradict..such a condition.

Immediately I had this distinct..prompting to rise,
I found that..I was actually doing so..

I then discovered..that those around my bed..did-not..perceive
what I was doing,..since they made no effort..to come to my assistance,..nor did they try..in any way to hinder me.

Turning,..I then beheld..what had taken place.

I saw my physical-body..lying lifeless upon its bed,..
but here was I,..the real I..,..alive..and well...

For a minute or two I remained gazing,..and the thought
of what to do next..entered my head,..but help was close at hand.

I could still see the room..quite clearly around me,..but there was a certain mistiness/..about it..as though it were filled with smoke/very evenly distributed.

I looked down..at myself..wondering what I was wearing,..for I had obviously risen..from a bed of sickness..and was therefore..in no condition to move very far..from my surroundings.

I was surprised..to find that I had on my usual-attire,
such as I wore..when moving..about my own house.

I thought to myself,..what other clothes..should I expect to be wearing?

Surely not some sort-of..diaphanous robe?
Such costume..as-is..usually associated with the conventional/idea..of
an angel,..and..I had no need..to assure myself..that I was not that!

Such knowledge of the spirit-world..as I had been able to glean
from my own experiences..instantly came to my aid.

I knew at once..of the alteration..that had taken place in my condition;..I knew,..in other words,..that I had “died”.

I knew,too,..that I was alive,..
that I had shaken off my last illness
sufficiently..to be able to stand upright..and look about me.

At no time..was I in any mental distress,..

but I was full of wonder..at what was to happen next,..
for here I was,..in full possession of all my faculties,
and,..indeed, feeling..“physically”..as I had never felt before.

Although this has taken..some-time..in the telling,
in order that I might give you..as much detail as possible,

the whole process..must have taken
but a few minutes..of earth time.
Posted by one under god, Friday, 22 October 2010 8:41:05 PM
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the word judged..is misused.

It implies..that someone outside ourselves..judges us.
This is not so;..we stand self-condemned.

Our spirit..cannot rise to higher realms..than those..for which it has fitted itself.

There is no necessity..to enforce any law,..for ALL law's are..self-acting.

I shall make this point plain..if I answer..your question.

The difference lies in this.

Suppose a complete materialist,..one who..neither believes..in God
nor..in a future life,..and one who does his best to dissuade others..
from believing..in these essentials.

This man..may be a real philanthropist,..actuated by a noble-desire..to promote the material well-being..of his fellow-men...

This man dies.

How can he..come..even to the realm of half-belief?
His spiritual body..has never been developed.
He could not..bear the light...

[it burns..as like fire..those/bodies..of grosser astral-matter]..

He must develop..his spiritual body..and lose the materialistic-ideas[forms].. before he can possibly come to us...

No hard judge..dooms him..to Hell.
He goes there naturally of his own accord...[Like attracts like].

His lack of faith..bars him..out from..all realms..
in which faith..is..an essential-element..of existence.

“He goes therefore..to division five..of Hell;..but,..though there was no love of God,..

there was love-of..his fellow-men,and this will save him..from sinking lower..

and help him to..desire to..rise.

“Once the desire..to progress..in spiritual matters does appear,
that progress will/..probably..be sure and continuous;

but unfortunately..the materialistic mind..remains/materialistic..after death.

Often it denies that it is dead,..and considers
its psychic or its..spiritual body
to be..a physical body,..

so that he reasons..it..is still alive..on earth.

Even when..he realizes..it has passed through death,he may still deny,,there is a God..and refuse to listen to any..who could teach him.

Thus it/..his body..and thus his-spirit..will remain in Hell.

“Nevertheless..the number of good materialists..is far smaller than most people would suppose...Even on earth..many a man who outwardly poses as a materialist..in his heart of hearts..really believes..and thus..comes to our realm...
Posted by one under god, Friday, 22 October 2010 9:30:24 PM
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as he has...rightfully earned..
[god knows/that..in our hearts]..

“Further,..after death..such a man usually remains..[for a considerable time]..in his psychic-body,..[soul-body../'astral-shell'..

and the conditions of life..on that plane..(i.e. the astral)..soon convinces most men..of some at least some..of the most elementary spiritual truths.

“While on the subject..of the psychic body,..let me draw your attention..to the fact that/..you..have misunderstood..the seventh plane.

You have understood it..as the earth..
on which you are now living.”

“It is really..the earth-plane,..and can be separated broadly
into the division..of the incarnate..and*..of the discarnate spirits...

[all the spheres overlap..in their zones..of affect;..in-fluence..]

“The former are..of course yourselves,..the latter..the earth-bound/spitits*,and also a crowd of..other organisms,..such as elementals,..

as well as empty psychic-bodies..[astral shells]..,and so forth.

The..'dead'-man..first passes..through this stage,
and only when he has dropped..his ego/attatchment..to/with..his psychic-body..can his true..spiritual-body..enter..the sixth plane,..or even..decend into Hell.

“I was..but a brief space..[no measure of time]..in it,..
and must have dropped..my psychic body..
almost before I..realized I had one.

I believe it took place..as soon as the bedroom..
gave way..to this beautiful scenery.

“The officer,..however,..spent a long time..in the psychic-body,
and has a very clear..recollection..of dropping it...

[as its..'sins'..were..'washed-away'
..by his acts of..redemtion]..

“I hope..I have now made plain..
the relation between..faith and conduct
Posted by one under god, Friday, 22 October 2010 9:33:14 PM
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