And there comes Austin just to prove my point. All women are now tanning themselves on beaches and going to the gym while their men work hard all day.

How can all these Gen Y girls be earning so much at the beach.

Lots of hypocrisy and double standards showing here.

pelican,

'It is a bit disingenuous for some of you guys to pretend the issue of wage disparity has not derived from a long history of women being paid less for the same work. '

Not really. When are we to start looking at the objective reality around us and stop reflexively reacting to injustices past? Of course the favourite phrase of some on OLO is 'not so long ago'. Its almost as if you chicks don't want equality because then you would have to lose the victim card.

BTW as I said, the issue really should be who spends the money.

'Imagine the outcry from some if a female poster was to say "men are self-serving, selfish gits who wouldn't know fidelity if they fell over it and they are all rapists and child abusers"'

That's the sub-text of our time. 'The Vibe' of the feminist movement. You talk about living in another's shoes, well, you try being a man and being brought up with all the anti-male propaganda. Australia says No, and any misuse and abuse of stats to paint as many men as possible as rapists and abusers is fine and dandy if the aim is to help women. Magnifying and exaggerating women as victims magnifies and exaggerates men as abusers.

Take a look at this lot...

http://www.oneinthree.com.au/misinformation/

'It is just human nature to take offence at such derisory and generalised comments.'

As it is human nature for men to take offence at the majority of feminist propaganda.

'Comments about the hypocrisy of feminists in relation to this one article is to really diminish the capability of human beings to reason without prejudice. '

Female posters here have reacted in the same manner as male posters in response to feminist article about pay equality. ie sarcasm and belittling. How many times do we hear 'feminism is about equality'. At least 'equality for women' is more honest, even if it does deliberately position women as universally disadvantaged.

thread gone silly as usual - tat tah, no more emails

Back to the topic...

The Australian Council of Trade Unions,
3rd Sept 2010 has made it quite clear that:
"The unacceptable pay gap between Australian women
and men widened in the last financial year with
full-time working women earning 18% less than men..."

All anyone has to do is google

"2010-women's earnings in Australia."

There are plenty of current websites giving the current
stats.

Houlley
So you think this whole article about Gen Y is worthy of a new 'vibe' about male victimisation?

I have no time for either victimisation stances in the modern world - much rather we all got on with making our own choices and decisions regardless of gender.

"Female posters here have reacted in the same manner as male posters in response to feminist article about pay equality. "

And why are the male posters given leeway while female posters are not. Men have not traditionally been paid less so the historical relevance is not there to instigate a movement per se. There is however historical relevance in relation to child custody issues so I would always support improvements in that area. Many men deny that domestic violence is still an issue and in fact some have derided any form of assistance provided to women as though this is some sort of feminsit conspiracy. For goodness sake if women had not instigated shelters and other supports women would be still told to accept their 'lot'.

My point is that if you hold a prejudice (not confined to one gender) your position is already influenced by that prejudice or resentment in many cases.

It is the generalisations that get me.

Foxy,

This is the kind of mindless abuse of statistics that is infuriating antiseptic. Good work. I like your style Foxy, you're a very subtle wind up merchant. Get him yapping away about means and medians again.

BTW: Women earn less money than their counterparts -- 78 cents for every dollar a man gets. But they make more than 80% of buying decisions in all homes.

Would you rather earn more money or spend more money Foxy?

http://she-conomy.com/report/facts-on-women/

Over the next decade, women will control two thirds of consumer wealth in the United States and be the beneficiaries of the largest transference of wealth in our country’s history. Estimates range from $12 to $40 trillion. Many Boomer women will experience a double inheritance windfall, from both parents and husband. The Boomer woman is a consumer that luxury brands want to resonate with

pelican,

'And why are the male posters given leeway while female posters are not. '

When are they given leeway. They're constantly harangued as being misogynist neanderthals.

'It is the generalisations that get me.'

It's the hypocrisy that gets me. If you're for equality you should be just as upset about any equality regardless of gender, and if you poo poo equality for women as I do you should be just as unconcerned about the wage gap when men are behind. As I am. As anti isn't. But you must accept an element in posters objections here to this wage gap is to highlight said hypocrisy.

I love generalisations and stereotypes. I love to tell people I spent my Baby Bonus on a big screen TV. Sometimes I wonder whether men and women have totally different senses of humour. Exaggeration features very highly with me and my mates. We love expanding stereotypes about everything to a ridiculous degree