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Behind the Greeen Curtain

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Boazy you must not take your Gods job, he alone will say if your diatribes against others earns you a seat in that non existent heaven.
I love the bush love smelling it walking in it sleeping in it.
I work in it too, my grandfather my father and I for a short time worked in it.
I work in it still looking after some in parks /forests few do not love the new national parks, even less are unhappy that logs are no longer cut down and left to rot.
We have parks to preserve.
Even the greens know that this childish socialism crap ignores it is us who benefit by having wild recreation areas to just walk and live in.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 6:03:57 PM
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Ludwig.... your descripto of my namesake is entirely accurate, but the network to which he and his mindset are attached is farrrrr more widespread than most people seem to think.

Do you not criticize 'Televangelists' to spruke a prosperity Gospel just to make money ? Of course..I do too... but when Gore raves about 'Global warming/Climate Change' and then is found to have major share holdings in the money making side of it all, errr it begs the question of:
a) His sincerity
b) His true motivation.
c) His ultimate goal.

The same can be said of Maurice Strong, Kathy Zoi and Husband..their various political connections here in Australia, which include Bob Carr (CEO of ENVEX-Carbon trading group)

The point of the vid is not trying to make a general case from 'isolated individuals' but it is making the case first and showing BY some actual instances the more general issue of how corrupt and megalomaniacal and outright dangerous the Environemental movement has become.

Once people have a sniff of 'POWER' they will be corrupted just like everyone else and he lure of the 'flesh' will take over.

Pelly.. you should know me by now.. I see no intrinsic purpose in 'this' life ..without a Creator as logically without Him, it has none.

But beCAUSE we are God's creation, we DO have a purpose and that includes careful stewardship of the planet, with a divine mandate.
So we are under obligation to look after the place.
Watching Bob Brown today at his campaign launch.. I do sympathise with his cry for farm land in the Darling downs not to be consumed by open cut coal mines.
It is not 'that' which I condemn the Greens for, it is their Global Government/Socialism that I object to. That ultimate goal colors all Brown and the Greens say.

Exammy, it is because of the 'group I serve' that you even HAVE 'human rights'... aside from the Almighty and his 2nd great commandment "do for others as you would have them do fo you" there is nothing but empty sentimentality.
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 6:36:00 PM
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*D.B.oazy,* I hope you will excuse me for a slightly off topic comment, but I was wondering if you were familiar with another D.B?

One that Loves the Church, Loves the Liberal party, and who is both anti-green

(and well admittedly, the only reason that the alleged party of "branch stackers" will get over the line is becoz the GREENS will carry them,)

AND

thoroughly ISLAMAPHOBIC.

So much so in fact, that this one time Liberal party candidate a.k.a David Barker from memory, that he was disendorsed for his public anti-muslim comments.

Though it was difficult to say for sure, the brief glance of the camera did pick up a shot of his wife and daughter going into their home who may well have been Indo or Malaysian in background.

With more than 3 characteristics in common, and your comments about a forey into the political realm back in June, I was wondering if there was any connection?

Would you care to comment?
Posted by DreamOn, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 7:43:07 PM
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AGIR <" Once people have a sniff of 'POWER' they will be corrupted just like everyone else and he lure of the 'flesh' will take over."

Yes indeed.
You could also be writing about any number of religious organisations in the world- especially in your beloved USA.
Posted by suzeonline, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 9:57:24 PM
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Suz.. have I given you the impression that I believe otherwise ?

I'ts true for all mankind....All except...."One"... Jesus of Nazareth.

I also believe though, that this core human nature is redeemable.

It is for that reason (intrinsic megalomania) that Jesus taught as follows:

"If anyone among you would be first, he must become the servant of all"

It wasn't a popular message then...and is hasn't improved on the 'ratings' since, but to those who are called...it is a (beautiful) reality.

If you look at some of the great evangelical missions such as the China Inland Mission, you will find this characteristic in the founder.

Dr James Hudson Taylor is a life worth examining. I served for 9 yrs with that mission, and our general director (supervising over 900 people) was paid the same as me.. the lowly 'foot soldier' so to speak. I think in those days I had about $10/week disposable income
(for a family) after accomodation and food.

I contrast this with the CEO of one of the 'nature' foundations in the USA who is paid $310,000/annum. (it's in the video)

Look at Gore.. Strong...Zoi...etc.. all in it for the money it seems to me. Gore waxes eloquent about "I appointed Kathy Zoi as head of the non profit 'Alliance for Climate Protection'" but she, as Asst Sec of Dept Energy is dishing out truckloads of Stimulus money to 'green' projects.. in one of which her husband is a senior executive (Serious Materials).... and she has HUGE shareholdings in the Smart meter company Landis and Gyr. The sole purpose of that 'Alliance' by the way, is to 'persuade people that Climate Change is real'.... (which benefits Gores company Generation Investments LLC)
That 'alliance' was given $300 MILLION dollars to do just that.

Me smelleth many rats :)
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Thursday, 19 August 2010 8:59:45 AM
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"But beCAUSE we are God's creation, we DO have a purpose and that includes careful stewardship of the planet, with a divine mandate."

That said Al, why do you continually diminish environmentalism. It doesn't matter what you think of the Greens or of Bob Brown as it is irrelevant in terms of environmental stewardship. The Greens don't hold full ownership over environmentalism although they are one of the groups who is doing anything positive on this front.

We can all take ownership.

I have yet to see you start a topic about conservation so far you continue to deride it for a political agenda. Whoever said you had to be a socialist to care for the planet?

You miss my point about your cherrypicking only the self-interested motivations behind some environmental projects as though this represents all environmentalists and thus you wash your hands of it.

A Google search shows there are many Christians who are involved in environmental stewardship. Why not use their positive examples rather than holding up corporate interests as the standard.
Posted by pelican, Thursday, 19 August 2010 9:09:24 AM
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