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The Taming of the Shrew

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Belly,

You appear to have a fuzzy memory as I have criticised Abbott and the liberals in the past.

Foxy:- "It's not the policies during an election that count, but what the elected government does after the election."

In that case the comparison of the last few years when Labor has abandoned, or reversed just about every major policy decision either when they failed through sheer incompetence, or became politically inconvenient, as against the Liberal government who brought the country to the first surplus in generations, and who provided efficient, if dispassionate, governance.

As a taxpayer, I don't feel that we can afford the lofty ideals of the present incumbent incompetents.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 12:45:06 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

You can't be serious.
I think you're pulling my leg.

The Liberals have blocked everything they possibly
could and then accuse Labor of inaction.
Besides, nothing has been abandoned. Merely put aside
in an attempt to achieve things. But my
goodness - the Libs even got rid of a Leader (Turnbull)
to prevent the ETS from being passed. You're the one
who seems to have a selective memory. As for bringing
the country to surplus - whoopy do - that was difficult
to do wasn't it, during a mining boom? But ask yourself
why they lost the last election if they were so great
at governance? And why did the PM get kicked out of his
electorate? As I stated in my previous post, the same
front-benchers are still sitting on the front bench
mouthing the same old platitudes.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 3:47:49 PM
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Foxy,

Perhaps you should look up the definition of governance.

What have we got after Labor burnt its way through $46bn of taxpayers' money in record time?

Why in the presence of a mining boom can Labor not reach surplus without pillaging the mining sector, while the Liberals could?

The liberals could not block the cash splash, the BER, the housing insulation spends, grocery watch, fuel watch etc, all of which have been an unmitigated stuff up.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 4:34:36 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

I'm beginning to suspect that talking to you
is an exercise in futility. There seems to be
a huge gap between us that isn't going to be
bridged. However, let me just say this.

You again ask "what have we got after Labor burnt
its way through billions of taxpayers money in
record time?"

I've already answered that question in my previous
posts, but let me try again...

Labor steered Australia through the worst economic
crisis the world has ever seen in 75 years.
The United States, United Kingdom, Japan, all had
a recession. Thanks to Labor, Australia did not.
That is what is known as governance.

Yes, Labor did spend billions on the Economic Stimulus
Package with programmes that involved spending on
school buildings, social housing, ceiling insulation,
and so on. And yes, each of these programmes were
fraught with problems such as poorly installed insulation,
and possible rorting of funds for the school buildings
programme. However, the rorting of funds did put the
money back into the economy (by spending), and these
programmes did create economic activity that saved at
least 200,000 Australian jobs. Which is no mean feat.

You ask, "why in the presence of a mining boom can Labor
not reach surplus without pillaging the mining sector,
while the Libs could?"

Firstly the Libs had 12 years while Labor is trying to
achieve things in 3 years. Secondly, the worst economic
crisis the world has ever known in 75 years,
put a spanner in the works. Thirdly, the Libs
were tight-arses, and didn't spend on social services.
They cut back instead. I trust that clears things up
for you.

However, I've had my say, and I'm now done.
I feel that these issues will best be resolved
at the ballot box on election day.
The voters will get it right in the end.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 7:18:56 PM
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Re: "at the ballot box on election day.
The voters will get it right in the end"

Actually, I think the voters have been getting it "right in the end" from labor, for some time now!
Posted by Horus, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 8:34:02 PM
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Foxy,

You are simply pimping the Labor party line with Rudd tinted glasses. If you are trying to get us to swallow that drivel, then it is an exercise in futility.

The GFC did not have nearly the effect on Australian business, mostly because most industrial consumption is internal, and the mining sector sells most of its product based on long term term contract prices.

Given the difficulty in retaining skilled staff, very few workers were let go, simply because most businesses knew that getting them back would be impossible.

Given the huge economic engine built up over the last decade, Aus would have weathered the storm even without the huge stimulus.

You say "possible rorting" of school funds, this is ridiculous. The rorting was blatant and so wide spread that it occurred in just about every public school upgrade.

Perhaps you could provide and example of where this was professionally handled?

If you post blatantly incorrect information, don't be surprised if people call you out on it.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 8:00:41 AM
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