Dear AGIR,

Please prove to me you know what a lie is by answering the question; "Did Glenn Beck just 'mischaracterize' about what occurred on that train or did he lie?"

If it is beyond you then please don't expect others to be able to take your opinion about the truth of otherwise of what other people might have said or done.

From the mouth of Glenn Beck himself;

I say on the air all time, "if you take what I say as gospel, you’re an idiot." New York Times, March 29, 2009

Are you an idiot AGIR?

Here is Glenn Beck telling the truth;

I could give a flying crap about the political process.... We're an entertainment company. Forbes interview; April 26, 2010

Dear Foxy,

Very good.

Here is a ripper, Try saying it out loud, just rolls off the tongue;

"You self-centered self-righteous socialist out of control dangerous man-hating bitch. Shut your mouth. We might have bought into this crap in the 1960s because too many people were doing LSD. We're not on LSD anymore — we need to start making sense. "

And this;

"The most used phrase in my administration if I were to be President would be "What the hell you mean we're out of missiles?"

Beautiful! Very Dr Strangelove.

And this one always gets me for the amount of gumpton involved.

"I beg you, look for the words 'social justice' or 'economic justice' on your church Web site. If you find it, run as fast as you can. Social justice and economic justice, they are code words."

I'm not sure what Jesus would have thought but it got a hearty laugh from me.

Boaz: << "OH..Lord...I THANK you that I (CJ) am not like that dirty tax collector over therreeeeeeee" >>

I think I'm going to puke.

Fortunately, I have in place a reciprocal arrangement with my partner that whoever loses their marbles first has to assist the other in putting them out of their misery. If I said anything like the above I'm sure I'd have a happy OD.

csteele - I've come to the conclusion that Boazy doesn't actually know what truth is. He has his own fundy version of it, which is incredibly elastic. I've pointed to his mendacity numerous times at OLO, and all he does is abandon the thread and post the same lies elsewhere.

However, it's always entertaining watching him wriggle. A bit like catching a flathead, now that I think of it while I'm on holidays :)

Dear csteele,

My two favourite quotes:

"Jesus loves you.
Everyone else thinks you're an asshole!"

And

"You're the reason God invented
the middle finger!"

I thought women were the reason God invented the middle finger.

PROXYYYYYYYY..... welcome back from the sin bin :) I tot we'd lost ya.

csteele... mate.. you asked me a question and I gave you an answer.

Then you proceed to hurl misleading quotes at me about Beck...

Do you think I'm likely to suddenly stop following the 'Messiah' over a few slurs ? :) *grin*....thought u'd like that.

I see you continue to miss a MAJOR point so I guess it's time to SHOUT it.

BECK brings information, and backs it up with SOURCES...

YOU and I are obliged to confirm or deny that information and the sources.

I've found his presentations to be extremely reliable, sources well backed up...

IF.. you can point to a particular story... from a particular show..(make it recent) and then.. offer counter argument to the point he makes... we can go further..but at the moment ur acting like a spoiled kid...seriously.

CHALLENGE .. 'find a program... and an issue... then argue against the point beck makes'

Forget the other rubbish.
Beck...is not just about "BECK"...though it seems you would love it to be :)

Foxy.. as ever.. negligent on argument.. playing fast and loose with meaningless quotes..probably with a self satisfied "I just ate tweety" grin on your dial. *frown*

I think I might have to sik Proxy onto you :)

GO proxy GO!...bite... attack...

Dear Al,

It's interesting how two people can come away with such different impressions. I have watched Glenn Beck (a few times) - must admit, that I went back for another look because I thought he was a tad hysterical (in the true sense of the word). He didn't seem to me particularly bright - and although he was presenting an argument it was obviously skewed, as is his right, to fit in with the regular type of politics presented by Fox News - Fair and Balanced (ie, NOT Fair and Balanced). I mean it's not really a news station is it. News gets broadcast on Fox, but it's tucked in amongst the neo-con rhetoric, the always there commercials and irrepressible Fox News Extras.
I'm having trouble trying to work out why you think this guy is so clever and knowledgeable.