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Turkey and Brazil foil US Aggression Against Iran.

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http://www.mycatbirdseat.com/2010/06/obamas-letter-to-lula-exposes-us-dishonesty-with-iran/
Turkey and Brazil have offered to take 1200 kg of enriched Uranium from Iran in exchange for less dangerous uranium to be used in their medical facilities.

The US under pressure from Israel, has passed in Congress that sanctions to applied to Iran for it's failure to comply with the stock piling of uranium that can be used to make nuclear weapons.3 weeks earlier to this Iran agreed to such and exchange but was ignored by the US.

Israel has between 200-300 nukes yet there are no weapons inspectors there and no mention of sanctions.They applied sanctions against Iraq and there were no weapons of mass destruction.1.4 million Iraqis have been killed and 58 thousand US soldiers wounded or killed.

Can lust for oil justify our behaviour?
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 12 June 2010 9:57:08 AM
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Any one who did not instantly know who posted the thread must be brand new to OLO.
But how much substance is there to arjays claim.
Not for a milli second would I regard todays Iran as a victim.
A victim that is of anything other than its own bigoted leadership and religion miss used by those in control both of the country and its places of worship.
America for all its faults is so very far in front of this country as it is today I find it stunning even if it is arjay,,, that anyone can support them against America.
Love them or not if America did not exist we may not either.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 12 June 2010 4:37:25 PM
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Belly,If you are ever able to extricate your head form the sand of ignorance and self deception,I will throw a party for you.

Did you read Obama's self incriminating letter to Turkey and Brazil? I suspect not.
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 12 June 2010 5:20:06 PM
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Arjay, are you able to set aside Israel and the USA for a moment and look at the well-being of the Iranian people alone?

If the Iranian Islamic regime today already oppresses the people (ordinary Iranians), even without nukes, how much fiercer would it be once it gets those nukes, such as North Korea, knowing that no-one from the outside would dare to interefere in an attempt to help alleviate the suffering of the oppressed?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Saturday, 12 June 2010 8:21:04 PM
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yuyutsu,from what I hear,Iranian people live in a quite affuent society unlike many people in the USA.Parts of the USA have 50% unemployment.This stat would be unheard of in China.

So what is your economic solution?
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 12 June 2010 9:06:54 PM
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Arjay,

"Iranian people live in a quite affluent society... So what is your economic solution?"

The woes of the Iranian people are not of an economic nature, so as far as economics are concerned, if it's ain't broken - don't fix it!

The Iranian people are oppressed by a religious dictatorship, they live in fear of the "revolutionary guards". If they are caught doing something "un-Islamic" they are locked up and lashed, or even hanged.

I know an Iranian who was caught in the possession of "heretic" books (eg. of a different religion). He was arrested and would be hanged for "deserting the faith". (He managed to escape, cut the border and is now a refugee in Australia).

Have you considered being a Baha'i in Iran?
(no, they all went to heaven)

Then there are the restrictions on love: if a man and a woman (unrelated) are found together, uh-oh... they are in for BIG trouble (ditto for homosexuals).

Iranians are not free, they cannot replace their leadership because the final authority lies with the un-elected religious supreme leader.

Iranians cannot for example overthrow their current PM who belongs to an extreme sect that believes that their "hidden-Imam" is about to re-appear very soon, bringing with him all deceased believers back to life, hence it doesn't matter if Iran is "temporarily" destroyed in a nuclear counter-attack.

Had Iran been a free place, I would not have had to worry about their nuclear program.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Saturday, 12 June 2010 10:42:36 PM
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